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Another photo from a car show a year or so ago. Unfortunately, its let down again by the people and stuff in the background. I just haven't quite got the hang of good cloning out for these sort of shots without making it really obvious. But, I still like the processing i've done in this one.

So, if someone could give me some advice on how to effectively clone (or mask) out the background better, that would be appreciated.

Brand:PENTAX Corporation
Camera:Pentax *ist D Check out PENTAXPORTAL!
Lens:Schneider D-XENON 18-55mm F3.5-5.6
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:15 Oct 2007 - 5:42 AM
Focal Length:23mm
Aperture:f/10.0
Shutter Speed:1/1600sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:800
Exposure Mode:Program AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:Ford GT40
Username:davidburleson davidburleson
Uploaded:23 Jan 2012 - 4:49 PM
Tags:Car, Ford, Gt40, Transport
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cameracat
cameracat  108578 forum posts Norfolk Island61 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 5:04 PM

To be honest David, This looks fine as it is, The only thing I might have done as well, Would be to remove or dumb down the tent on the right hand side ( Cars near side door mirror )...!

You have to be real lucky to get decent clean shots at these events, But here you have the legendary 40 with a very atmospheric feel to it, Thats coming from a GT 40 fan big time.....Grin

Certainly got my attention......Wink

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Lynamick
Lynamick  12 United Kingdom31 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 5:49 PM

Hi,
Try using the pen tool to go round the outline of the car then place the car on the background of your choice.
Michael

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CathR
CathR  7139 forum posts United Kingdom563 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 6:18 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Nice treatment - very dramatic.

I have had a go at the cloning work. Certainly not perfect - not being a car buff at times I wasn't sure what was car and what was not, in the wing mirror area Wink but it's not impossible to do it well. You just have to take it slowly and nibble away at the distractions bit by bit using the surrounding tones as your source point. I put a horizontal guide line in so that the transition from ground to sky was at the same level on both sides.

best wishes

Catherine

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23 Jan 2012 - 6:28 PM

Stunning shot & processing!
To be honest my focus was so much on the car & clouds that the tent & people didn't even register!

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 6:30 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

good dramatic viewpoint and lots of negative space in the sky which i love. i think some post processing could add more contrast into the car to boost thye imact and a bit of doging the sky to bring out the lighter tones. also a white stroke about 2 pix would hold the frame out of the dark black background.

its a shame about the few distractions either side the car but they are not too obrusive.

greta viewpoint and i like the head on view.
Phil

Last Modified By NEWMANP at 23 Jan 2012 - 6:31 PM

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom840 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 8:04 PM

Don't find the background a problem on this one. Could be much worse - I know - I go to a lot of these shows. I like what you have done. The only way without a lot of work is to completely cut out the car as said elsewhere - but then things can look very artificial if you are not good at it.

Paul

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10777 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2782 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 8:57 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

First, dont clone!. Go to Ehotozine TV David and look for tutorials in extractions, - what youre best doing here is extracting the cars completely and the placing it on another background of your choice or making.


heres a good example http://www.ephotozine.tv/video/creating-complex-and-high-quality-cut-outs--747 its quite easy.


I will have a go at a mod later using this technique.



regards


Willie

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10777 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2782 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jan 2012 - 9:19 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Loaded a mod using the technique Took less than 10 minutes, and used your existing background. Extracted the car, went bact to the original. Marquee tool to select all the sky down to where theres no intrusions, inverse selection, delete. (Make layer deletable by double clicking on it). Then I selected the sky and stretched it a little to make sure it would come down to the middle of the car, dropped the car onto it, sharpen and contrast.

When extracting the car. I tool the side of the cars and grass with it, just below where there are any distractions.


Willie

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davidburleson
davidburleson ePHOTOzine Staff 72301 forum postsdavidburleson vcard United Kingdom
23 Jan 2012 - 9:25 PM

I ask for advice and I get loads! thanks. this should really help in the future.

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Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318430 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jan 2012 - 10:46 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I like the balance. Sometimes it's good to let the sky be prominent, especially if atmosphere is what you are after. The lighting on the car is good too, no distracting reflections and a good key light around the bonnet.
I would straighten up the car for starters it's leaning down to the right. I would also put a small amount of detail back into either side of the plate. And then I'd clone out the background distractions. I'd make a selection using the pen tool to around the car to each side, round the outside and just above the problem areas. I'd then clone down from the sky and grass upwards meeting just above the headlights.

I might be tempted to lighten the headlights too slightly to give them a touch of sparkle. And I'd clone out that flier that's been dumped under the windscreen wiper.

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DavidMosey
DavidMosey e2 Member 1DavidMosey vcard Canada1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Jul 2013 - 1:43 PM

I think it's a smashing shot-- the beautifully sculpted bonnet dominates... I really didn't notice the "crowded" background-- my attention was totally captured by (a) the car and (b) the very dramatic sky. I suppose the bit of tent showing behind the nearside wing mirror could go, but that's it.

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