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I was going to upload more images of the Chrysanthemums, but I've learned a good few
things from some good comments and critiques for which I thank each of you.
Thank you all for votes and special thanks to andylea and saeid for User Awards
for Gold Chrysanthemums. I do like the image and hope I can improve on it in
future attempts.
So I'll move on to a different subject for which I need more help.
These spoons were given to me by an aunt who was a missionary in India.
They are over 60 years old so even when cleaned they're not perfect.
I could use advice how I could have lit these differently.
I photographed them in daylight with one light as I did with chrysanthemums,
which was cleverly seen by the experts.
KateGrin

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 450D
Lens:Macro Canon 60mm USM
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:10 Apr 2013 - 1:32 PM
Focal Length:60mm
Aperture:f/11.0
Shutter Speed:2sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:Five Silver Spoons
Username:Irishkate Irishkate
Uploaded:18 Apr 2013 - 12:31 AM
Tags:Close-up / macro, Silver spoons
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Hermanus
Hermanus  2 South Africa
18 Apr 2013 - 4:09 AM

No help from this side - but I would like to say They are lovely spoons and it is a lovely photo SmileGrinGrin

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johnke
johnke  154 forum posts South Africa9 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 5:14 AM

They look like Sugar spoons Kate, lovely BG and I think well lit...John

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece16 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 6:12 AM

What beautiful spoons, Kate, something to treasure. I would have no idea about lighting, but I think you have presented them well. Carol

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ugly
ugly e2 Member 6ugly vcard United Kingdom55 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 6:52 AM

Very nice spoons...
could have got a little higher to show the handle nice and clear with all that detail.
If you could not get the hight you done very well. Black B/G works so well..

Dave

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HarrietH e2 Member 4261 forum postsHarrietH vcard Portugal
18 Apr 2013 - 7:19 AM

As someone who has been practicing just yesterday to get the floating look of objects with a grey card, I am very pleased and a little envious to see how well you have accomplished this.

Harriet

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 7:52 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Two things. If you are after a record image, shoot this type of thing from above, not from one end. That causes distortion. Second, lighting is critical with shiny metal surfaces and the light you are using is not polarised. With care, you can get away with a heavily diffused flash, preferably two, one placed equi-distant each side of the subject, above and at 45 degrees.

That will give even soft lighting from each side. The correct method is a light tent. A come of thin white material or paper. lit from the outside, placed completely over the subjects. You need a hole at the apex of the cone to point the camera through and a tripod. The very soft light correctly illuminates the metal without hot spots and shine.

Paul

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marktc
marktc e2 Member 346 forum postsmarktc vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 7:56 AM

Sorry Kate, nothing I can add to be constructive, apart from to agree with Dave and try to get a higher viewpoint.

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CaroleS
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18 Apr 2013 - 8:08 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

A slightly higher pov would have avoided that foreshortening and enhanced the lovely bowl shape of the spoons at the same time bringing those lovely handles closer and show more detail. A challenge for lighting and Paul has given some excellent pointers.

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NDODS e2 Member 32893 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom99 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 8:16 AM

Blue tac and a black felt covered board stood at 90 Degrees works a treat Kate

Regards Nathan GrinGrinGrin

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Nikonuser1
Nikonuser1 e2 Member 1Nikonuser1 vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 8:53 AM

Nice set of spoons Kate, I can only reiterate the sound advice you have been. SmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile


Cliff

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EMJAYCEE e2 Member 5EMJAYCEE vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 9:02 AM

I don't consider myself to be in the league of experts that can give such help with lighting etc. My thoughts have been explained by Carole (Rolepics). I think a more vertical pov would have shown the lovely handles to better avantage. I'm sure we'll be seeing the perfect image any time soon.Smile
Joan.

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18 Apr 2013 - 9:14 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

What beautifully crafted spoons, Kate!
Maybe present them radially, with the decorative part of the handles in the centre and view them from above?

Richard

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digital_boi
18 Apr 2013 - 9:43 AM

think Paul has said it well Kate think about whilst finally getting those damn windows done

Graham

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gary_d e2 Member 6519 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 10:42 AM

Great advice from Paul which helps me too, I love the spoons they are so unusual. - gary

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18 Apr 2013 - 11:18 AM

i love the image and have learned all ready ,i was trying to find the words Paul used because i have found the same in my own images.

billy

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Herge88
Herge88 e2 Member 739 forum postsHerge88 vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 11:21 AM

Looks like a fine set of spoons here, well exposed so as not to blow the details.

Best Matt

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 4:04 PM

The bottom line is to avoid hot spots when shooting anything shiny. A light tent is the classic answer, but is only practical for relatively small subjects.

Paul

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pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1577 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 4:40 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I can think of numerous compositions for these, Kate, but do agree with the idea of an overhead shot.
1. Placed as they are, but end-to-end, 3 ends and 2 tops in one direction, 3 tops and 2 ends in the other (this is how spoons are often displayed in their original boxes, as here).
2. Radial has been mentioned, but how about shooting just half the spoons, with all the tops in the centre.
3. Some upside-down.
4. One straight in the middle, 2 crossed over either side, X 1 X.
5. Use a shallow depth of field, focusing on the tops. (I thought this one looked good).
6. Show reflections or shadows.
7. Have the bowls stacked and the tops splaying out like a fan, as here.
8. Stagger them like this.

The composition you show here tends to emphasize the bowls rather than the beautifully carved tops.

You have large reflections in the spoon bowls, probably your house and garden, so it might be best to photograph them inside with lighting as suggested above.

Pamela.

Last Modified By pamelajean at 18 Apr 2013 - 4:41 PM

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Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 3Irishkate vcard United Kingdom73 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 5:14 PM

Many thanks to you all for some great suggestions which I will try out very soon.
It's great to get all this advice in a short space of time.
KateGrinGrinGrin

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Lillian
Lillian e2 Member 5Lillian vcard United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
18 Apr 2013 - 7:17 PM

Wow Kate hope you have a lot of time on your hands
to try all the advice , well given
and a lovely image it is too
Lillian

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achieverswales
18 Apr 2013 - 10:32 PM

Enough said above Kate, Been on the go all day now doing my emails at 10.35pm.

Regards

Trev.

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