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Hi Guys,
Here is my 2nd attempt at blending two Raw exposures of the same image, one for the sky & one for the boat. Thanks for the feedback on my first attempt yesterday. Again I would welcome feedback and Critique, but also votes if you like it Wink Regards Tim

Camera:Nikon D40 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18-55mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Dungeness Graveyard 2
Username:Emu72 Emu72
Uploaded:19 Jun 2009 - 2:55 PM
Tags:Digitally manipulated, General, Landscape / travel
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DeSilver
DeSilver e2 Member 7DeSilver vcard England11 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 2:59 PM

You obviously know far more about processing your images than I do but I do know that this is a lovely image. Very dramatic. Great.


David.

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Wilmot
Wilmot  6338 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 3:03 PM

Stunning image
Steve

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Sezz
Sezz  9617 forum posts England15 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 3:07 PM

Indeed very dramatic, looks good to me! I'm glad that lovely old boat is still there, will have to make another visit soon!

Sarah

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HectorRivera
19 Jun 2009 - 3:22 PM

Nice work. At first glace it looks like a very nicely exposed and composed shot of an abandoned boat. Onece I read your describtion I realized it was more than that. Then I went to your portfolio and look at yesterdays photo. Now is clear what you have done. Need to look at both pics together to see. Great job

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JezTaylor
JezTaylor  6 England
19 Jun 2009 - 3:26 PM

Your compo is excellent the colours & lighting are spot on & the blending is absolutely perfect. If this is your first attempt you've hit the nail right on the head my friend. Well done.
Jez.

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SashaB
SashaB  5 Northern Ireland
19 Jun 2009 - 3:37 PM

Excllent work - your efforts have paid off.
Frances

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BillyGoatGruff
BillyGoatGruff e2 Member 7191 forum postsBillyGoatGruff vcard England199 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 3:46 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Asking for votes, eh!?! That's a new one, Tim!
I hope it works for you. Personally, I wouldn't measure the success or failure of your image on how may votes it gets, rather by whether or not you are pleased with it.

This and yesterday's image are both very well composed and are pretty successful first attempts at blending. Both display a good colour sense and a good feeling for the tonal balance in an image.

I think, however, that your masking technique could do with more work. Not easy, by any means, but definitely possible. Takes a lot of practise and is why the Photoshop Gurus get paid bug bucks!

Both of your images show a bit of "muddiness" in both sky and foreground and sometimes slightly brighter haloes at darker areas, which is symptomatic of inaccurate mask painting.
Shift-alt-clicking on the mask thumbnail will display the mask as a red overlay on the background image, which will help with accuracy.
Also varying the size, opacity and hardness of the brush you use will, with practise, help refine your technique.
Alt-clicking on the mask thumbnail will reveal only the mask, and this can also be helpful in identifying any patches you may have missed.

For even more refinement you could look into luminosity masks which can be used in addition to more standard masking techniques and provide even more tonal control.

I think both images could do with a bit more contrast work to avoid the "HDR look" unless that is what you are trying for, in which case you could maybe shoot an HDR set and use Photomatix. It would still need further contrast work, even then.

All in all, I'd be pretty happy with these first attempts had they been mine.

And yes, this gets my vote; you didn't have to ask! Smile

Cheers
Bill

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MNPHOTO
MNPHOTO  6 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 3:56 PM

beautiful

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AIIen
AIIen  5
19 Jun 2009 - 3:59 PM

i agree with what Billy said about the mask.
But a nice Image with good composition.

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BillyGoatGruff
BillyGoatGruff e2 Member 7191 forum postsBillyGoatGruff vcard England199 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 4:02 PM

"bug bucks" should, of course, say "big bucks"!!
Er...slip of the typing finger! :-0

Bill

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VIKI
VIKI  8 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 4:04 PM

Well I think it's very atmospheric!!!!!

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Emu72
Emu72  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 4:19 PM

WOW thanks for all the comments!

Bill - Thank you for spending the time to explain some areas that I 'sort of' knew were wrong - the biggest issue I have is that I am using elements and do not have access to layer masks (just watched a video on utube of how to's..) maybe I need to search for a free plugin or something. Thanks once again for the feedback & votes Wink
I am happy with the image, but knew that blown up it would show the issues highlighted by Bill.

Regards Tim

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Wow.
Scott

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shandoor
shandoor  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 5:02 PM

A superb image lovely dramatic sky great composition and lighting love it very well done
Alexa

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RAUL
RAUL  6 Italy
19 Jun 2009 - 5:11 PM

Great tones.
Raul

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fatmod
fatmod  8 England
19 Jun 2009 - 5:27 PM

cracking capture

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Kevhan
Kevhan  6 England
19 Jun 2009 - 5:35 PM

It works for me, nice one.

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Mark_Callander
19 Jun 2009 - 5:41 PM

fantastic shot.
Mark,

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Ian-Munro
Ian-Munro  6200 forum posts Wales15 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 7:10 PM

I ain't no Guru and thats why it looks ace to me - well done indeed. Ian

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neonknight
19 Jun 2009 - 8:28 PM

Another stunner nice one,John

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SWMahy
SWMahy e2 Member 6SWMahy vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 8:36 PM


Quote: do not have access to layer masks (just watched a video on utube of how to's..) maybe I need to search for a free plugin or something.

I also use Elements and use just such a free plug in to enable me to use layer masks. I find in invaluable. In fact I don't think I could manage without it! I'm really impressed with how well you've done without them. Great shot this.

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Emu72
Emu72  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 8:37 PM

Thanks to all for the comments, I am really shocked at the response ;-0

Regards Tim

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SWMahy
SWMahy e2 Member 6SWMahy vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 8:38 PM

Sorry, I can't remember where I got the plug in, but it was not hard to find. Was one of the first I found with a Google search.

I'm on the hunt for a proper curves tool too. I think the Elements Curves function is pretty shoddy. Smile

Steve.

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Emu72
Emu72  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 8:39 PM

Thanks Steve - funnily enough I have just found a free plug in for elements 5 and will try this out on my next shot from Dungeness - fingers crossed Wink

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Emu72
Emu72  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
19 Jun 2009 - 8:42 PM

The plug in was for layer masks not curves, still using just levels.

Thanks again!

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