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My first go at motor bikes,any advice welcome.is the bike and rider sharp,

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 50D
Lens:EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:3 Mar 2013 - 1:13 PM
Focal Length:95mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/3.2
Shutter Speed:1/1000sec
Exposure Comp:+1/3
ISO:640
Exposure Mode:Shutter speed priority AE
Metering Mode:Partial
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Manual
Title:Moto Cross
Username:Goodley Goodley
Uploaded:7 Mar 2013 - 5:59 PM
Tags:General, Sports / action
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MattK
MattK  363 forum posts United Kingdom
7 Mar 2013 - 6:16 PM

Hi,

To be honest it looks pretty good to me! The rider and bike look sharp but you have a little bit of motion in the wheels to still give a sense of movement - for a first go you have done very well indeed!

I also like the framing of the shot as the rider is looking in your direction and you are angled so you can seen enough of bike and rider to make it interesting to the eye. I think for future you could maybe try a technique called "panning" to create movement blur and also play with flash and 1st/2nd curtain sync and shutter speeds to create photo's that pop out and have a bit more depth as well as having motion blur. I am new to flash myself so have just read up on it and seen how it looks when done!

As long as you focus and get the rider and bike in focus you can play with shutter speeds to increase or reduce motion blur. it doesn't say if you auto focused or not but sometimes manually focusing on a pre set point and waiting for the bike to come over the hill and jump THEN snapping when it comes into frame helps you to get sharper shots more consistently as the autofocus can find it hard to focus on very fast objects like these bikes.

Not sure on the use of flash at these events as it's probably not a good idea to blind riders! - but in different situations where you have movement and can use flash - first/second curtain sync can create some cool photos.

Keep snapping - you got a good'n!Grin

Matt

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10986 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2983 Constructive Critique Points
7 Mar 2013 - 7:47 PM

Its quite a good shot, turned out well. Youve obviously lost some highlights in the trees and the helmet, but the bike and reider look good. Ive sharpened a little in the mod and cropped into an A4 format, and recovered some highlights.

The settings for the shot look fine, but I would recommend a different approach. Though it makes sense to use Shutter priority intuitively, you lose control over the all important aperture.

So what many shooters do, is use Aperture priority and set it to what you want, - 3.2 is good with this lens; then use ISO to control your shutter speed; use AI Servo as the focus mode, and use the centre focus point. Hold the shutter half pressed and it will track the bike until you fully press.

In control functions, theres a setting foir AI Servo you can look at where you can determine the range you will allow the AF to vary from the selected point, - its useful.


Well done,


Hope this helps,



regards


Willie

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2013 - 8:39 AM

Good effort, nice and sharp. Even more impressive with the bike a bit bigger in the frame. Pity marshalls have to wear yellow jackets. Might just clone him out. Easy enough here and he pulls the eye a bit. Otherwise lower viewpoint and look upwards.

Paul

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Goodley
Goodley  5 United Kingdom
8 Mar 2013 - 10:06 AM

Thanks for the advise, i couldnt do the lower viewpoint,i was shooting over a fence,
thanks kev.

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41262 forum posts United Kingdom203 Constructive Critique Points
8 Mar 2013 - 1:42 PM

I think the main problem here is the tree! The subject doesn't stand out as much as it could, if the background were cleaner. That said, I know you are limited to where you can stand and get the shot from.

As far as metering, the light doesn't usually change that much, so I'd take a reading before the action starts and use manual. That way, if you pan across different backgrounds, the exposure of the rider won't change even if the background brightness changes, and you can settle on an appropriate shutter speed/aperture combination and just worry about getting the shot.

If your camera supports it, you could even use auto ISO, as long as the background is fairly constant brightness, but personally, I'd stick to manual.

I'd also avoid flash for now, as it's another set of settings to worry about - just concentrate on getting the shot with what you have been using.

Nick

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MattK
MattK  363 forum posts United Kingdom
8 Mar 2013 - 6:25 PM

On review of my comment I would agree with Sooty_1 (Nick). Avoiding flash would be a good idea until you master ISO, metering, focusing etc and get consistent results with those first. To be honest I should probably do the same! Wink

He also makes a very good point about trying to get a "clean background" but as you said you were limited to where you could stand. One thing to think about when shooting them in future though.

Matt

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