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I've been down my local Deer Park three times now over this rutting season, having visited for three seasons so far. It's been a WONDERFUL experience watching these marvellous beasts strut their stuff, but I now fear this may be the last time I witness it.
As ever it appears that the few spoil it for the majority !
These animals have co-existed with humans in our national parks for years. They make our lives as photographers much easier than stalking them in the wild as they're so used to people. Walking their dogs, jogging, riding their bikes etc...never any problem.
Sadly I feel that's changed. My experience this year tells me things have changed, I've seen two togs being charged by stags I myself have been fearful for the first time in what's now my fourth year of visiting the parks.
THE REASON....too many inexperienced snappers are getting FAR TOO CLOSE and the stags have had enough.
I heard today that someone was gored by a stag and an ambulance was called.
THE RESULT...I fear that the authorities will prohibit photographers from the parks during the rutting season.
Thanks Autumwatch....thanks overpublicity by one & all.

Hear endith the sermon....sorry but it needs saying folks !

Camera:Canon EOS 7D
Lens:300 mm 2.8 L is usm + 1.4 conv
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:RESPECT ME ! ! !
Username:HUMIE HUMIE
Uploaded:11 Oct 2010 - 6:00 PM
Tags:Disrespect, Pets / captive animals, Red deer, Rutting season, Stag, Stupidity., Wildlife / nature
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Goodley
Goodley  5 United Kingdom
11 Oct 2010 - 6:09 PM

loverly detailed capture, and yes it is a shame other people have to spoil things,so many idiots about sadly,well taken,
kev.

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Cormy
Cormy  7 England
11 Oct 2010 - 6:11 PM

Magnificent stuff,Mike.
Cheers
Alan

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Glyn1
Glyn1  5 England1 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:15 PM

Awesome capture.

Glyn

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Kingfisher8
11 Oct 2010 - 6:19 PM

Tis is a brill shot well done.

Keith.

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Steve_S
Steve_S e2 Member 8176 forum postsSteve_S vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:22 PM

Excellent Mike, some people just don't realise how powerful these can be.
Steve

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Sezz
Sezz e2 Member 9617 forum postsSezz vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:25 PM

As you say, a shame that a few spoil it for the majority! A fabulous capture Mike, superb detail!

Sarah *

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cassiecat
cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:33 PM

fabulous.love v1.shortlisted.lesley

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jeb2012
jeb2012  5 United Kingdom
11 Oct 2010 - 6:40 PM

Excellent capture

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Shroomer
Shroomer  7 England167 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:44 PM

My sentiments exactly Mike, I have been saying this on my last couple of downloads and blogged it to Autumnwatch. It is rediculous as we witnessed Saturday.
This great shot shows the true power and the need for respect to these fine mammals, which is what I tried to reflect in my upload today. Cracking capture and here's hoping we can carry on.
Back Wednesday when the baffoons are at work hopefully
Terrific capture Mike
Richard

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Briwooly
Briwooly  8452 forum posts England5 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:50 PM

Superb yet again

Brian............................................

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taggart
taggart e2 Member 1042 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:54 PM

all the deer we see run away from us-- A fab. capture Mike!
Jennnnnn

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sweetpea62
sweetpea62 e2 Member 4sweetpea62 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 6:56 PM

Brilliant work.well done.

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Maiwand
Maiwand e2 Member 7Maiwand vcard England69 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 7:10 PM

I read your narrative with a great sense of foreboding Mike as I know from being there ( as a devout and practising coward I was NOT one of those getting too close!! ) that there is a great deal of truth in what you say.
I assume you are talking of Bushey as your cracking good shot demonstrates what a loud and noisy lot the deer were that morning. It would be a great loss if we lost that facility. Fingers crossed.
Nice to meet you again.
Ron

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ccb
ccb  626 forum posts United States2 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 7:44 PM

I have noticed some nature TV shows seem to be only about how near to wild animals people can get - and the animals obviously don't like it. There's no excuse for annoying them like that. I hope your wonderful photography isn't affected in the future by rules that are changed because of it.
This is such a wonderful shot - and it is great to see your work again.
Christina

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tomcat
tomcat e2 Member 95940 forum poststomcat vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 8:01 PM

As are most programmes these days, they cater for the masses and not the true, dedicated people, of which, I would like to class myself as.

I might miss a few things along the way, but that is why I spend most of my wildlife togging at The Coppice these days, where I can be at wan with nature and not suffer the idiots and weekenders, who spoil it for me/us.
When I can approach a Long-tailed tit on a feeder and gently stroke it, without it becoming alarmed or distressed, it is worth a thousand images achieved by more devious means.
Ask Cheryl about the last time she was at Donna Nook with the seal pups and the inconsiderate, so called toggers, who had no respect for what they were amongst.

Cracking portrait, by the way Smile

Adrian

PS Sorry for the rant

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Mynett
Mynett e2 Member 6137 forum postsMynett vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 8:25 PM

television and the masses are the route of most of the bad things in our society - I enjoy wildlife programmes and watching and enjoying what they do I also love to see the guys like you on here who may sit for hours even days to get the shot, but never do I loose my respect for the animals in the wild

interesting narative

Linda

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VidB
VidB  6 United Kingdom11 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 8:32 PM

Firstly Great images, people must respect these animals as they are wild and keep there distance because someone is going to get seriously hurt if not killed and that will be the end of open parks and lead to fencing them off from the public, and we donít want that, and as your heading says RESPECT THEM.
Dave

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SueTurner
SueTurner  1081 forum posts England3 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 8:33 PM

a brilliant shot and interesting comments to your description

a sad ol world we live in sometimes

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 8:47 PM

Hi Mike, whilst I appreciate your sentiments it could be argued that the crop you have chosen to make could cause people to presume that they can get closer than you actually did. So in itself it is promoting the close-up shot.

I don't think it is fair to blame Autumnwatch alone and I think it has so much more to do with respect for nature in all its aspects. Too often we see people, not just photographers, not appreciating the wonder of nature.

Personally I feel totally priveleged if any wild animal wishes to share a moment of its life with me. If I happen to have my camera and can share that moment with others then that is a bonus, but we all need to be careful about what we post and how we represent some species.

Now I am not picking on you or this image, just saying that by choosing to crop some will be fooled in to thinking that they can approach much closer than would be wise.

I believe that there should be more consideration given to the "circle of fear" for all animals, no matter how common, or how small or even if they are not dangerous.

ps. It's a great image

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SurreyHillsMan
SurreyHillsMan e2 Member 627 forum postsSurreyHillsMan vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 9:36 PM

Great image Mike..... good to see you this morning,... you what I think, I've posted these sentiments on the Autumn Watch blog the Richard refers to

Jon

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teocali
teocali e2 Member 6249 forum poststeocali vcard England18 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 10:24 PM

Wonderfully detailed image Mike and I agree 100% with your sentiments.
Sylvia

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RonnieAG
RonnieAG e2 Member 4139 forum postsRonnieAG vcard Scotland112 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 10:24 PM

Very interesting reading your own remarks and the comments of others. Doubt if I am in a position to add anything worthwhile.
But just to say V 1 is a magnificent image....very well done.
Ronnie.

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HUMIE
HUMIE  7 United Kingdom
11 Oct 2010 - 10:30 PM

Thanks all for your comments and support.

I totally agree with you Cheryl, since I "rediscovered" photography four years ago I've been immensely priviliged on many occasions spent watching wildlife. I 'm just concerned that , like other aspects of our society, tv and the media seem to encourage joe public that everything is "fair game " to them in order to make a fast buck....and to hell with the consequence !

I too was at Donna Nook last year and whilst for me it was one of the highlights of my wildlife experiences so far....I shall never forget spending an hour or more in the company of one absolutely delightful pup, I was HORRIFIED at the blatant disregard for their welbeing demonstrated by many mindless idiots, to the point that I doubt I'll ever visit there again.

Off to bed now...up early this morning.

*Mike*

Last Modified By HUMIE at 11 Oct 2010 - 10:31 PM

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EMJAYCEE e2 Member 5EMJAYCEE vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 10:49 PM

I've never had the opportunity to be able to witness the season of the Rutt but would like to express my thanks to you and the other EPZers who have posted some wonderful images.
Joan.

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rontear
rontear e2 Member 11rontear vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 11:27 PM

Superb image Mike with a long lens !! Seems that conduct has got out of hand. Tonight on the way home from a judging ( photographic ) 3 Hinds crossed the road in front of me ! braked very hard and 2 went back into undergrowth the other made it !
A rutting experience in Essex. Ron.

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Shroomer
Shroomer  7 England167 Constructive Critique Points
11 Oct 2010 - 11:28 PM


Quote: Hi Mike, whilst I appreciate your sentiments it could be argued that the crop you have chosen to make could cause people to presume that they can get closer than you actually did. So in itself it is promoting the close-up shot.

I would say that if people think that Mike was this close then they are not reading the equipment used part and also what Mike has said as have many of us on here and to AutumnWatch have said. They think they can get this close then they know nothing about the subject, have not studied it and are just ignorant to dangers and lacking in respect for themselves and the welfare of the Stag. Only a fool would think that it is safe to get this close especially when there is a variant showing it at the distance shot. Plus I know and back up Mikes awareness for these always planning a safe entry and exit after watching him in the field.

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alfpics
alfpics  12357 forum posts England
12 Oct 2010 - 8:48 AM

Hi Mike,
Nice piccy - thanks for your 'sermon'. I don't get to see AUTUMNWATCH so can't comment on their influence bad or otherwide - but you're right we should respect wildlife and its 'circle of fear' as mentioned by another poster
Andy

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HUMIE
HUMIE  7 United Kingdom
12 Oct 2010 - 4:47 PM

Thanks all....

Nice one Richard....

Thanks for dropping by Andy...

*Mike*

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