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past this on the way to town and went back the next morning. waited for the right light

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 30D
Lens:EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:25 Oct 2012 - 3:03 PM
Focal Length:18mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.5
Aperture:f/7.1
Shutter Speed:1/160sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:400
Exposure Mode:Manual
Metering Mode:Spot
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:As Shot
Title:Redtree
Username:ian57 ian57
Uploaded:26 Dec 2012 - 9:26 PM
Tags:Landscape / travel
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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10986 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2983 Constructive Critique Points
26 Dec 2012 - 11:14 PM

Hi Ian, - theres something not quite right about this shot. Its very much underexposed, but I also think perhaps that theres been some modifications done to the shot that havent helped it.


The scene itself looks like a nice one, but this isnt doing it justice. When you decided on a manual exposure, how did you determine that the exposure was correct? I notice you used spot metering which may have caused you problems, as evaluative, centre weighted would provide a more accurate reading.


Ive tried to address some issues in a modification, but its not great either. If you can provide some more information it might help.



Regards



Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 26 Dec 2012 - 11:15 PM

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
26 Dec 2012 - 11:20 PM

This is very red indeed. A bit too red I think. You needed something of a complementary colour in here too as a foil, suitably placed. It has potential though.

Paul

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ian57
ian57  2 United Kingdom
27 Dec 2012 - 10:38 AM

Hi thanks for the comments, I added a posterize and saturation to this photo. You are right its very red, the leaves were a red colour. Believe it or not this won 1st in a local competition. Ian57

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41262 forum posts United Kingdom203 Constructive Critique Points
27 Dec 2012 - 12:38 PM

Looking at it with those comments in mind, the posterisation is responsible for the funny look...the over-saturated colours and over-sharpened look.
I think more natural colour would be better, this is just too much, for me.

I also think this would be good if you concentrated on the bridge and cropped top and bottom to lose the sky and grey road, then the green in the background would have more prominence to counter the red. As is, I just see the tree, but concentrating on the bridge would make you want to look beyond it.

Nick

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
28 Dec 2012 - 9:08 AM

I think there is far too much foliage here for the picture which concentrates really on the bridge. I would crop it down somewhat to do just that perhaps it would have won with a greater win margin! The sky to the top left doesn't really help either, the crop would remove that too.

I am not over keen on your posterisation shown here and I would also be tempted to clone out the white road markings.

Congratulations on your win anyway.

Frank

Last Modified By Focus_Man at 28 Dec 2012 - 9:09 AM

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 2124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
28 Dec 2012 - 9:54 AM

Hi Ian well done for the win

I have to agree with some of the comments of the other members that this shot could be improved.

For me the first thing is getting your horizon straight, I have done this in my mod using the road over the bridge as a reference. I also agree that the road markings although not too obvious are not adding to the image so I have cropped those away to leave the entry road as a foreground lead in.

As Willie said this shot is a bit underexposed so I used a levels layer in my editor to move the highlight marker to the edge of the histogram and then adjusted the mid-tone marker to just tweak the exposure of the mid tone slightly to brighten the shot.

Finally I don't think you need the whole tree to get the effect of the red leaves so I gave the shot a squarish crop to create my final image.

I've suggested these as ways to maybe improve the shot but I think that you should also consider that doing too much digital modification can sometimes be detrimental rather than enhancing.

Eric Grin

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ian57  2 United Kingdom
28 Dec 2012 - 4:42 PM

Thanks for the comments, i will redo the image and repost it to see what you think. Ian57

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iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
29 Dec 2012 - 11:27 AM

Good capture and composition. Without reading the comments above I liked this image and the only improvement I would suggest is to crop out the tarmac area of road at the bottom. Maybe lighten the shadows a little on the walls. On my screen (spyder calibrated mac) it looks pretty good. Was it printed for the competition? Well done with the win.
Ian

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
29 Dec 2012 - 11:52 AM

I've done a couple of mods. The first a crop from bottom and lightened shadows on the wall a little. I've reduced the red sat a little but if it's going to be printed other adjustments of reds may be required. i sometimes find image with a lot of red difficult to print. (i believe there is a technical reason for this but i can't remember what)
The second mod is based on Frank's suggestion.
Whilst I reduced the red sat a little I find the colour fine and really like it.
Ian

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ian57
ian57  2 United Kingdom
29 Dec 2012 - 2:10 PM

Thanksfor the comments, yes i printed for the competion and added a mount that hid the tarmac road lead the eye into and over the bridge. Ian57

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