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The same subject as my last upload but this time taken through a framing........I quite like it but do you think it's too much........honest critique would be appreciated.

My thanks to all who commented on Winter Weir.

Ronnie.

Camera:Nikon D600 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:Nikon FX 28-300mm.
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Focal Length:28mm.
Aperture:f/10.0
Shutter Speed:1/125sec
Exposure Comp:+0.3
ISO:800
Exposure Mode:Apeture
Metering Mode:Pattern
Flash:No
White Balance:Auto
Title:"Window on a Winter Weir"
Username:RonnieAG RonnieAG
Uploaded:3 Mar 2014 - 10:00 AM
Tags:Landscape / travel, Linn park, Weir, White cart water, Winter.
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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 6barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 10:05 AM

Truth here as I see it.
Love the fence but don't think the tree on the left does anything for the image.
Can you go back with a chainsaw???
Kidding
I think trying to manoeuvre around what is there sometimes is impossible
Funnily I think the tree is well photogenic.... But not in this comp for me.

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CarolG
CarolG e2 Member 7128 forum postsCarolG vcard Greece17 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 10:22 AM

Love the composition, Ronnie, would look even better in the summer with leaves on the trees Smile Carol

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CaroleS
CaroleS e2 Member 434 forum postsCaroleS vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 10:25 AM

Natural framing works perfectly for meSmile

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digital_boi
3 Mar 2014 - 10:32 AM

Good Morning Ronnie from the light side the two trees for me are not too over the top because you can see through them so does not clutter too much. Looking at Barbara comment above I have tried a wee mod reducing the left tree to a stump in the water and tone mapped that and the original to let you see. Nice in the sun this morning but still damn cauld in the shade.

Graham

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3 Mar 2014 - 10:56 AM

A beautiful capture Ronnie.

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Badgerfred
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3 Mar 2014 - 10:56 AM

Like the image Ronnie, just needed a slight crop from the left in my opinion,
Fred.

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Nikonuser1
Nikonuser1 e2 Member 2Nikonuser1 vcard United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 11:08 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi

Ronnie

A lovely place to while away a few hours, IMHO I like the way the tree and the fence frame the waterfall, my thought would be to get rid of the saplings in front of the fence, they are a disstraction to the eye, possibly a little crop to the top of the image.Smile


Cliff

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Fefe
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3 Mar 2014 - 11:15 AM

To me there is too much blocking the view Ronnie.
I feel like i want to go to the end of the fence on the left and take the view from that point.....or the rightSmile
Diane

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Caziwinkles
3 Mar 2014 - 11:19 AM

I like the tree - sort of semi frames the image. It will look great in the Summer when in full leaf! Smile

Carol

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gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6533 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 11:34 AM

I do not believe in removing anything from the image afterwards, while in front of the scene you have to make the decision to take the image or not by changing your position or that of the camera to produce a composition that works, I do remove offending objects from the scene before taking the shot that are removable, litter for instance.

What I am saying is I like things to be natural and for that reason I like this image as it is.


Gary

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10865 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2860 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 12:23 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Its a good exposure.

The subject is the weir, however the foreground elements, including the fence, are both too dominant and act as visual blocks for the subject. So for me it doesnt work. A better position, if available that gave a clean a shot of the weir would be better.

The image also needs a rotation, the river should be level, and its tilting down at the right.


Regards


Willie

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom851 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 12:42 PM

Willie beat me to it. A nice general scene, but too much fence in particular. OK to be there, but needs to kead in over a maximum of about a third of the frame.

Paul

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Irishkate
Irishkate e2 Member 4Irishkate vcard United Kingdom73 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 12:53 PM

The little crop off the top helps as the branch at top was distracting.
Graham's second mod is excellent but I think you think more like Gary in above comment.
The framing is good though taking the viewer into the weir.
Kate GrinGrinGrin

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NDODS
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3 Mar 2014 - 12:54 PM

What needed to be said has been said, and what needed to be done has been sone

Regards Nathan GrinGrinGrin

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EileenH
EileenH  1 United Kingdom
3 Mar 2014 - 1:20 PM

Lovely imageSmile

Eileen

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Lillian
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3 Mar 2014 - 1:20 PM

I like this Ronnie as an overall image
all I would change is a little off top
Lillian

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Mike43
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3 Mar 2014 - 1:33 PM

Go back in May/June with a pair of wellies to get you beyond those branches and fence and you will get yourself and lovely landscape photograph, because for me everything is there just the wrong time of the year.
Mike.

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taggart
taggart e2 Member 1042 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 2:47 PM

I find my self agreeing and disagreeing with what has been said above--Going back when the trees leaf out will be another image, removing the uprooted tree-- never mind-- I like the fence, not sure where th focus point is or should be, in short, as you know, I don't know much about landscape togging!
Thought it was a pleasing view!

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jdinne
jdinne  11 England
3 Mar 2014 - 3:25 PM

Hmmm ok Ronnie overall the image is well exposed. I like the trees framing the wier and I dont mind the fence, love the water movement and colour.

Think the sapplings (if thats what they are) are a tad intrusive and think in summer they would have leaves and block most of the wier. So a cahinsaw would be useful there Smile

Would be interesting to see the same view point in summer Ronnie.

Rgds

John

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Brian65
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3 Mar 2014 - 3:59 PM

Looks great to me Ronnie, all your images do.
Brian

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EMJAYCEE
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3 Mar 2014 - 4:15 PM

I like the fence in the foreground - I can stand there, lean on it and admire the view beyond. The tree on the left is a bit of a peculiar shape but that' the way it is.
I do think it is a scene worthy of your attention Ronnie.
Joan.

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bobhowell
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3 Mar 2014 - 4:25 PM

Great picture with loads going on. Bob

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rayme330
rayme330 e2 Member 2rayme330 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 4:28 PM

I like Nathan's comments.
But on a personal level the image works for me Ronnie.

Ray

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lifesnapper
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3 Mar 2014 - 5:31 PM

I like the title ronnie, and a very nice pov too.

John Smile

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evelen
evelen  9 England
3 Mar 2014 - 6:26 PM

beautiful capture Ronnie.
eve.Smile

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SUE118
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3 Mar 2014 - 7:05 PM

I love it super.Smile

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kathrynlouise
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3 Mar 2014 - 7:25 PM

A beautiful image Ronnie but for me i'd have to step over the fence. I like the trees just not sure about the fence.
That's the thing I think with photography, everything is personal preference GrinGrin

Kathryn

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mikbee
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3 Mar 2014 - 7:31 PM

I don't mind the trees at the side Ronnie for a frame,
but the fence maybe a tad too much !!
Mick.

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3 Mar 2014 - 7:38 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

All very interesting comments, Ronnie, which only goes to show how subjective photography can be.
There is natural framing, there is blocking the view, and there is something acting as a barrier.....and I feel that you have all of these here.
Firstly, the top of the fall needs straightening.
The small branches behind the foreground fence go directly across the fall of water. The fall is, I assume, your subject, and needs to be clearly viewable, unobstructed.
The overhanging tree on the right fits the "framing" bill nicely.
The tree on the left is very large and a strong element in your frame, so is competing for attention. I'd prefer the scene without it, or with some of it cropped away.
I'm undecided about the fence. It gives you foreground interest, and adds depth to the image, but I still see it as a barrier to the view of the weir.
When I look again, trying to be objective, you have done a fine job using the trees and fence as natural framing, which was probably your intention. So my main niggle has to be the small tall branches going across the fall of the weir water.

Pamela.

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sweetpea62
sweetpea62 e2 Member 4sweetpea62 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
3 Mar 2014 - 9:32 PM

A lovely image Ronnie, like all your pictures I think this one has more details..Lin

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pluckyfilly
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3 Mar 2014 - 10:27 PM

Just a shame about the fence, need I say more?

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nonur
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4 Mar 2014 - 12:39 AM

I think it is wonderful, Ronnie.

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accipiter
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4 Mar 2014 - 10:59 AM

Another nice image of this weir. I think I will go with yesterdays upload - the fence distracts me a little from the waterfall. A

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4 Mar 2014 - 12:35 PM

Bit late on this one but here's my twopenneth, Ronnie.

Waterfall levelled and image cropped at top to put top of the weir on the upper third. Left side cropped to remove bulk of tree. Light levels, contrast and saturation adjusted to put a bit more detail and punch into the foreground. Without the tree trunks on the left and right the fence would act as a barrier but with the trunks they make an incomplete triangular frame through which to look. Imagine the scene without those side trunks and I think you might see what I'm getting at. The twiggy saplings do not overly detract from your view of the weir either. To finish it off I added a touch of smart sharpen but only as a personal choice.

Dave

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TrevBatWCC
TrevBatWCC e2 Member 6TrevBatWCC vcard England8 Constructive Critique Points
4 Mar 2014 - 4:14 PM

Another cracking shot, Ronnie, think the fence and the trees frame it very nicely Smile
Trev Smile

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14 Mar 2014 - 9:28 PM

I'm in full agreement with Gary Durbin here, I too tend to take what I see

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28 Apr 2014 - 10:56 AM

Ronnie, frame works well here and Dave as always has some great suggestion to try out....

Paul.

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