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help! thought i had a nice image put it on here yesterday and it went down like a lead bollon what im i doing woung?

Title:butterfly
Username:jayhyk jayhyk
Uploaded:30 Aug 2010 - 4:40 PM
Tags:Wildlife / nature
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pingreek
pingreek  5 India
30 Aug 2010 - 4:49 PM

Beautiful colors...
satish

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devlin
devlin  4651 forum posts India39 Constructive Critique Points
30 Aug 2010 - 5:28 PM

Hi Jay,

It would help if you could post your camera settings and lens used, it would help the CG team to give you proper feedback, for me personally i like colors on this one, i just feel its a bit soft from a focus perspective also the image is dead center from a composition perspective, iam not too sure if ROT applies to butterfly shots not having any experience in that area but these are just my thoughts Smile, iam sure some of the other experienced members will drop by soon and give more detailed advise

Cheers

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KarenFB
KarenFB Junior Gallery Team 84254 forum postsKarenFB vcard England162 Constructive Critique Points
30 Aug 2010 - 6:21 PM

I don't think you are doing anything wrong as such!!

It's a very quiet time of year, with folk being busy outside and on holidays.

It's a lovely image, the colours are good and the details on the butterfly are fine (It's a Lacewing by the way). Even the background is a good uncluttered colour. I may have cropped a little off the left hand side, but that is a minor thing.

Bugs and butterflies don't appeal to everyone, as long as you have enjoyed taking the image and are happy with it, that's all that matters! Smile

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Philo e2 Member 464 forum postsPhilo vcard England83 Constructive Critique Points
30 Aug 2010 - 8:06 PM

First of all don't get stresses about a lack of clicks, I'm sure this has happened to al of us. Funnily enough I did exactly the same as you: posted the same shot in the critique gallery and asked where it had all gone wrong.
This is a nice image and the background is lovely. The main problem is lack of sharpness. This may be partly due to the uploading process as you tend to lose sharpness when resizing. if your original is appreciably sharper then this may be the problem. I have offered a mod in which I have cropped a little from the left, sharpened and increased contrast in curves.
As Devlin says you do need to post your camera settings.
Phil

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Stace
Stace e2 Member 6Stace vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
31 Aug 2010 - 12:53 AM

A great POV here, with some powerful colours going on, the image lacks sharpness due probably to the slow shutter speed, these places are usually quite dark so I always find that a tripod is nearly always needed, as I have said a super composition though, done a mod decreasing contrast and saturation and sharpened it. trying to bring out some detail, not sure if it has worked though

Keep at it
Stace

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
31 Aug 2010 - 7:30 AM

Not having any info doesn't help comment. Basically the makings of a very nice image, but it does need to be a bit sharper. Movement, focus, lack of a final unsharp mask - impossible to tell. Macro is very difficult to get pin sharp - all the pitfalls of long telephoto but worse.

Macro magnifies the image, any focusing problems and camera movement.

Have you enhanced the colour - it looks almost too saturated.

Paul

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pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1577 Constructive Critique Points
31 Aug 2010 - 3:33 PM

Hello, Jay. I looked at this yesterday and felt, as has already been said, that it had a focus problem, was overly saturated, and that the composition needed addressing. I have just been editing some of my pictures taken at a butterfly house. Running around with a tripod is so restrictive, but if the butterfly is very settled, this would be ideal. I still used my polarizer because the available light can still burn out white areas of the wings, as you have here. Looking at pictures of the lacewing on the internet and also on this site (just do a search for "lacewing butterfly" under the Photography Gallery), you will generally see that the white areas of the wings still have some detail within them. I also used a high ISO so that my shutter speed was fast. Take care to avoid foliage that is directly in front of the butterfly, as you have here, because that can throw your focus out. I think you did quite well, your background is perfect, and you have the butterfly facing you. If you pushed the colours and contrast on this, maybe you should return to the original, try again, but hold back a little. Is there detail in the whites on the original? Hope that helps a bit.
Pamela.

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