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I went out again yesterday evening to try and find some light... instead i came accross an amazing sight with thousands of gulls sheltering from the wind and surfing the weed-filled waves. I'm told that the birds feed on the maggots which are in the rotting seaweed in the first 20metres or so - so they're not really into surfing Wink

I would be grateful for any advice to improve this image - it was nearly dark (5pm) so ISO was quite high (640). Av 4.5, Tv 1/320. lens was at 105mm.
i did try other iso and shutter speeds, but this seemed to be about the best result.

Camera:EOS 30D
Lens:100-400 L IS
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Gulls
Username:jonny250 jonny250
Uploaded:15 Nov 2009 - 10:54 AM
Tags:General, Wildlife / nature
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rontear
rontear e2 Member 11rontear vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2009 - 11:06 AM

An amazing spectacle of nature. Very good image of the behaviour, fills the frame with interest. Perhaps those houses needed to be less prevelant within the scene ( larger apeture ). Bonus for getting out there ! Jon. Ron.

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svatos
svatos  7 Czech Republic
15 Nov 2009 - 11:07 AM

superb shot, very nice

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colmar
colmar  742 forum posts Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2009 - 11:33 AM

Wow there are one or two ! All i can think is the aperture as per Ron' comment . Certainly worthy of a vote ( if it were available ) for going out and getting a shot Colin

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61583 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
15 Nov 2009 - 11:04 PM

wow, like a scene from Hitchcocks Birds.
no chance of considering composition with a scene like this, just keep the horizon level and hope for a result. a result you managed to pull off.

i like the image but i have to say that even at small size, there is a lot of apparent grain/noise. i see you you used 600 plus iso which will inevitably create some noise but i wouldnt have expected this much.

im not sure if you processed the raw as 16bit tif and what its like straight from raw conversion or whether it gathered the artifacts as it was subsequently worked on. also if the exposure started erring on underexposure and was pulled back to correct exposure this could have an effect as most of the noise comes from the dark areas.

you could have a look in the colour channels and see which colour shows the most noise and have a go at adding a little surface blur to just that channel, works sometimes.

in the composition, i dont mind the houses, it gives a scale, a link to the Birds Film etc.

it would be interesting to go back to the raw and see if a cleaner exposure could have been pulled off. as you have not given any information on the method of mono conversion i cant help there either.

great shot but needs a bit more quality to score
Phil

Last Modified By NEWMANP at 15 Nov 2009 - 11:05 PM

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jonny250
jonny250  860 forum posts Guernsey
16 Nov 2009 - 2:32 PM

Thanks all for your comments which i appreciate Smile
Phil, i will have a look at the raw and see what else i can acheive.
Cheers.

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