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Not so 'disturbing' and more self explanatory.

Camera:Nikon D300 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:50mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:THE GILLYS HAT
Username:keithh keithh
Uploaded:1 Mar 2013 - 7:33 AM
Tags:Fishing., General, Still life
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richmowil
richmowil e2 Member 5240 forum postsrichmowil vcard England1 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 9:35 AM

Fantastic detail in this image - I like it a lot!

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 10:19 AM

Cheers

If you don't like it, then feel free to say why. Wink

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conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 11:48 AM

Some nice textures and colours in this shot, Keith.

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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England207 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 12:44 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Like the good details and textures in this Keith.
Well set up.
There is a dark spot in the background hessian about a half inch down from the top around the third that once seen seem to draw the eye might be worth a clone.
Regards Richard

Last Modified By Richsr at 1 Mar 2013 - 12:45 PM

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pmorgan
pmorgan  7217 forum posts England13 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 1:45 PM

Can almost feel the textures in this Keith!

There, that's 4 comments for you, and one of them was constructive too Smile

Rgds
Paul

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73817 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 3:23 PM


Quote: If you don't like it, then feel free to say why. Wink

Seeing you asked nicely Wink

I will start with what I do like. Its a super composition so well thought out, the attention to detail in the three subjects is superb....but..

To me its the background, the texture is too similar to that of the hat, and with similar lighting. The "blur" (Gaussian or otherwise) just jars slighly and creates a clash with the hat.

I think darkening the background would help as it would stop the hat fighting with it. The image should be about the superb elements, not the background - thats the supporting act.

Last Modified By Nick_w at 1 Mar 2013 - 3:24 PM

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 4:11 PM

The trouble with darkening the background (which I've already told you in the PM is not artificially blurred Wink ) is that it takes some of the commerciality out of it. It would make it more EPZ-able but out in the real world not so much.

I know that if I'd added several layers of grunge to it, the votes would double but I need to sell these things and personally I find the sacking a complimentary backdrop to the elements.

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73817 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 5:17 PM

I didn't mention "grunged layers" I dont think it needs it, and im not talking of making it very dark, just enough to give seperation.

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 5:26 PM

No, the grunge comment was a general comment. In print there'll be plenty of separation. Color alone will bring it forward.

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chris-p
chris-p e2 Member 864 forum postschris-p vcard England
1 Mar 2013 - 5:55 PM

I think there are four elements not three...as the hessian for me is the carrier for the fish to be transported from the river bank....the fly on the silk line is a link...brill comp and where on earth did you find that reel and fly line ? The good 'ole days of salmon fishing ....not that I remember mind Tongue

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 6:10 PM

So speaks an old fly fisherman....LOL

Second hand bargain, Chris. two reels, two dozen flies and a few other goodies for the price of a big bag of chips. Tongue

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chris-p
chris-p e2 Member 864 forum postschris-p vcard England
1 Mar 2013 - 6:45 PM

I've had me moments Tongue
Coming down your way .....just bought some fly fishing gear .....only got one arm left and will have to hop to the lake Tongue

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 6:57 PM

You can borrow me 'at and sack if you want.Wink

Be good to nab some salmon on the Avon before they net them!

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chris-p
chris-p e2 Member 864 forum postschris-p vcard England
1 Mar 2013 - 8:27 PM

Tempted Wink

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
1 Mar 2013 - 8:48 PM

Mind you, disabled access is a bit limited Grin

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dp
dp  10163 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
2 Mar 2013 - 8:14 AM

Agree with Nick. The hat and hessian are too similar in colour and texture for me. Love the reel, line and flies but for me the hat has to go. Maybe nice with a couple of trout or salmon in its place and then something with some height behind them. Maybe the cork rod butts or something. Same colour but different texture.
I used hessian with grain, hops and beer years and years ago for a cibachrome in my city and guilds and that seemed to work well. At least I passed anyway!
No idea about the commerciality of those comments, I bow to your greater knowledge in that area but thought you may appreciate the comment on the composition.

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
2 Mar 2013 - 10:12 AM

Mmmm i have shots without the hat and to me they are crying out for the hat as the title says. Fair enough the rod but the cost outweighs the commercial return or at least hacks in.

As an ex food photographer o know that unless the fish is straight from the river it looks wrong.

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rontear
rontear e2 Member 11rontear vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
2 Mar 2013 - 9:32 PM

Lure a Trout anytime Pete !!
Ron.

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cooky
cooky  10 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2013 - 7:52 PM

Bow to all the above on technicality and commercial and as the title says it's all about the hat. I merely think that with the age of the reel and the suggestion of past times the hat is too new...so how about
The Gillie's Sunday Hat? Wink

And as a sheer matter of interest I used to tread flook in the Kent estuary where my great uncle had the salmon rights. Does that count as fishing expertise?

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keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
5 Mar 2013 - 7:59 PM

The hat, weirdly, was made around the same time as the reel....it had an easier life I guess. I have never flooked a salmon but I have been flooked by an old trout.

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cooky
cooky  10 United Kingdom
5 Mar 2013 - 8:03 PM

Wot yer tryin to say Henson!!!!!!Wink

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