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Verbal abuse
doubt it was very little to do with photography, if he was carrying a banana , it may well have got the same reaction, the truth is we have people in the community that when in groups will attack anyone for any reason they can use. by isolating them from the herd it justifies to them selves what they do. I suspect its a social problem more than a photographic issue.
you just have to be aware of your surroundings and who is about.

48 15/04/2015 - 9:23 PM
By StrayCat
First ever photography shoot
I believe sherlob says it all tbh.

All I can add is you will receive hundreds of invites to do weddings when friends find you own a camera , very few will want to pay you.

The first experience for me was nerve racking on the day. and many days of editing and was never happy with what I did
The second experience again nerve racking and hated what I did.

for me there has never been a 3rd as I personally wont put myself in that position again, there is a whole different world to doing something you enjoy as against having to come up with the results.
Have you considered what will happen when none turn out as expected, if your camera fails on the day, if your card fails. and the hundred other issues that occur.

Customer/Friend Expectation's may be far higher than your skill set , I have turned down lots of friends since, some have been quite off with me for doing so but in my case the week of worry before and after the event is not something I want to do again.
fortunetly the two I did, the friends seem happy but they are far below what I thought I could do.

The one bit of advice I can give is have a word with the best man, get him on side to manage the guests ready for each photo, do the large group shots first before they get bored. then prey lol

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179 08/04/2015 - 4:26 PM
By scottishphototours
sanctuary online magazine
I should add that I am not against doing it, I do a similar role for a smaller regional show, but At that one I do as I want, made very welcome and enjoy the weekend. and that for me is the difference. I am under no pressure to produce aside from personal pride. cheap weekend away with great company. that makes all the difference.

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10 03/05/2015 - 8:40 PM
By MrNature1
sanctuary online magazine
Just remember, exposure is great, but when you have the exposure and you want to earn from it, you find yourself replaced by another person wanting exposure who does it for free.
I went through the same journey with magazines, in the end they wouldn't even give me a free magazine. and I was contributing 4 x3 page articles in each edition(1 3rd of the magazine content, I persuaded myself it was for the good of the hobby.

A few days ago I received an invite to be come the official photographer of one of the largest shows in its genre.

I’ve been chatting to xxxxxxxxx about having an official photographer at this year’s show and we have all thought your shots from previous years are by far the best! With that in mind, would you be interested in taking official pics for the Show this year? Ideally we would like you on site at set up and then over the entire weekend. We would like shots of every aspect of the Show to include, Schools Day, air show, battle, groups, VIP area, Veterans and Dinner Dance.

please note this is as good as you can get in access and exposure. no money. its more like a full time job and worse of all with that list of things to do I would be on my feet 15 hours and no enjoyment for me, I would rather pay the 15 quid to get in , enjoy the day and having a few drinks with my mates after public show has finished.

I have declined for those reasons. im sure they will find people who will jump at the chance for "exposure".


10 03/05/2015 - 8:40 PM
By MrNature1
Camera Insurance
Its quite a simple system, The risk of paying out is assessed, policy is written to manage that risk, and future premiums set to cover the expected claims, running costs and profit.
A claims handler has no interest or benefit for turning down a claim, in fact for them its less work if they except the claim.
The handler has one main role, to check if it falls into the agreed policy conditions, Most declined claims are due to people not reading the terms and conditions when they take a policy up and having high expectation's or distorting the truth to suit those conditions. The telephone lines are recorded and the handler will be monitored to ensure they follow those guidelines.
they will have very little movement in those conditions. making exceptions is not something done lightly, as the handler will have to justify that decision and take responsibility for that .
having a lot of recent experience I can assure you no one reads the t&c until they need it, then blame the insurance for them being unable to claim.
as an example something like " Must be reported in 24 hours", they will call a week later and say "Did not realise that I had the insurance. that is not a reasonable excuse


84 08/04/2015 - 10:52 PM
By thewilliam
Photographers - are we too easily pleased?

Quote: mIt took a long time for it to sink in to my dense skull, but the people running things have a much better handle on the site than many of us realise; the old cliché we don't see the big picture, comes to mind. KeithH got the point across to me, and when I realised it, I couldn't believe it took so long for me to see it. In a nutshell, the site is for everybody, and that includes just about every level of photographer there is, but the majority do it as a pastime, a hobby; that's the group I'm in. What you want to do is limit the site to your concept of what a photographer should be, impose your will on everybody, and have us all think and act like you. This type of thing goes on in all walks of life, and we all do it, some of us without realising that we do it. I did that for the first 10 years I was a member, and in a very subtle way, which is Keith's way most of the time,Grin, he let me know that there are thousands of members who enjoy the site the way it is, and it would be very destructive to take their enjoyment away; many would leave the site if it was the way you want it to be. I might seem like it at times, but I'm not a mean spirited person, and I want to see everybody enjoy the site. We're a very diverse group, and I think that makes the site what it is. I have no reason to suck up to management; I have awards disabled, and I don't enter competitions; so I can say with a clear conscience that management do a great job, considering the diversity of the big picture, and we all can use a bit of moderation now and then.Wink

One of the best responses I've read for a long time.

41 03/03/2015 - 10:03 AM
By TanyaH
Photographers - are we too easily pleased?
if there was a demand then it would happen, I've seen loads of groups come and go on here that fell away out of lack of interest which discussed this same issue. I tend to see things in black and white (Not picture wise), unless people want this and make it happen, it wont happen.

Photography for me is being comfortable with what I do, I don't find a need to share with photographers, the people that matter to me are those that I support through photography. there likes or feedback are much more important than some criticism on the rules and on technique. to them the subject/story is more important than composition will ever be.
I suspect there are many on here both professional and amateur who feel the same way.

41 03/03/2015 - 10:03 AM
By TanyaH
Photographers - are we too easily pleased?

Quote: How about we copy copy n paste some of the RC images in here then cos most of them are crap and we could all enlighten ourselves in the joyous fabric of self discovery through critical / ephemeral analysis.

Just a wooly thought .... Smile



Personally I find this idea distasteful, it matters not what award someone has, just how it made them feel, to make fun of someone's pictures in a mickey take is not constructive. if you have nothing good to say its best kept that way and let them enjoy there hobby

41 03/03/2015 - 10:03 AM
By TanyaH
Do camera clubs cramp a photographer's style?
Camera clubs are a social centre to share a hobby. nothing more or less, like any group of enthusiast's in any hobby , there are so many diverse people and spats, bullying, egos ect, the list goes on as exists in life at every level. The attitude can change from club to club so labelling them is a fruitless exercise.
just go along, if you enjoy the interaction then that's great, if you are one who wants to moan about it then don't go. The fact is its your choice and you get what you put in.

Take part in what you want to be that comps or lectures, the fact is no club will be able to please everyone.

in regard to do they stifle you, same answer. that's entirely up to you, Simples.

I left my last one as my area of focus was not what the club wanted to see all the time and a judge marked me down because he was fed up of seeing the same subject, so for me it became a pointless me entering comps. It didn't stop me, just made me realise my target audience was not a camera club. But I wouldn't call the clubs as I learned so much from them over 20 years, it was me that outgrew them.
I like everyone else have gone through those scratching head moments in regards judging, but much respect for anyone who does judging, they are putting there opinion's up for judgement of the braying mob, I miss the social interaction of the clubs that the internet does not give and can be so invaluable to your learning process.

90 25/03/2015 - 3:57 PM
By SlowSong
'Sour Grapes' or what -----

Quote: The rule is if the other work comprises a significant part of the new work it breaks the law. Is it in the distance and part of the background or is it filling the frame?

all the above , It comes down to what context you entered the comp, For example if it was open or themed, That the photograph was captured to create a picture of young and old, different values ect then this is perfect for that, if the comp Theme was women in red then you would be pushing acceptable as the main part of this picture was someone else's work.
So in what context this was offered up for judgement is important, In my ex club someone for example submitted stain glass windows as a picture, personally I see that as not a picture in itself but a record shot of someone's creativity, if the shot included the frame and wall, then it could be deemed as creative in how you presented it.
I like the red poster one for that reason as I see the creative in using the older lady in comparison, take that lady out then we are talking just a copy

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56 12/02/2015 - 10:18 AM
By Evertonian
Road Traffic Accident.

Quote: Thanks all.....I think myself I'll go with the 6 points and resitting her test option as it's the only one that makes sense. Strange but if I find out more from my insurers I'll update as I go.
Many,
Thanks.

not sure why you feel that she needs to resit , points are awarded for breaking the traffic laws, having an accident is not a traffic offence.

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21 19/12/2014 - 9:12 AM
By Bridgelayer
Need help with Article
profit making by the commercial world around us, the spirit of Christmas to many is alive and well, a time for giving and receiving and that goes on all around us, the retailers take advantage of that to sell more at this time of the year which has the effect of making the cynics amongst us feel its been exploited. The religious message to many has been lost.
But for all that Children , parents and family's come closer together at this time of the year, be it for the right reason I cant comment, people make sacrifice's to make it a special time for others. so all is not lost

28 27/11/2014 - 1:47 AM
By IshanPathak
Download video
Each time you start and stop recording, your camera records the clip as a file, in the format that the camera uses, refer to your Manuel for the format and download a converter for that format,
you should be able to convert the clips t a more generic format dependent on what you wish to use the clip on, eg. Tv, utube ect. As pointed out above, you will need some software to put the clips together , again free on the net.

Dslr sometimes have limits on clip size so quite often start anf stop when they get the max file size.





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17 27/11/2014 - 2:12 AM
By Paul Morgan
rps "A" panel in travel
I would keep it simple, Just plain white backing. The awards, gallery's prefer it like that, fancy paper could go against you

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4 09/11/2014 - 8:15 AM
By SlowSong
Shooting during the Last Post.
I come across many during the year that snap and move round groups having a minutes silence to fallen comrades and historical occasions, I also find it disrespectful and rude behaviour. there are just as good photograph's to be taken before of after to capture the occasion. the photograph just isn't worth personal integrity.

14 02/11/2014 - 3:39 PM
By Chris_L
UK Police Claim Filming Them Is an Offence

Quote:
So I see that this video no longer exists - does that mean that it was deemed illegal and removed?

The video was posted 7 years ago when this thread was started, laws have changed since then but yes you can film the police.

There is no law stopping anyone filming in a public place, so if you are on the streets you can film without asking permission – the Metropolitan Police’s own guidelines(adopted by all police forces in Britain) make clear that “police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel”. There is a law – Section 58A of the Terrorism Act 2000 – that says police officers’ can stop you filming them if they believe that the video will be used for purposes of terrorism. However, police guidelines state that:

“it would ordinarily be unlawful to use section 58A to arrest people photographing police officers’ in the course of normal policing activities… An arrest would only be lawful if an arresting officer had a reasonable suspicion that the photographs were being taken in order to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism”.

86 17/10/2014 - 8:17 PM
By KevSB
Betta Living Kitchens

Quote: Utility companies offering yearly service for heating oporate in the same way

Not all, Having just worked for one for 12 month, contractor's was only doing routine checks, everything was done in house in regards to servicing, Still crap service though.

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5 07/10/2014 - 10:43 PM
By KevSB
Judgement and Reality
The fact he has you all debating it and looking makes this a success for me as a project, and published also, An I did find they made me more aware that I stereo type, good photography and Reminder that we shouldn't judge.

Very thought provoking

53 03/10/2014 - 4:36 PM
By Carabosse
is it illegal to photograph a dog without permission?
Putting the legality issues aside, And not being there at the time so unable to judge if it was invasive or not, I have an image of someone taking photos of where I live and my dog in my garden, In todays society that makes me a little uncomfortable.
This isn't a criticism of the op but just another viewpoint from the other side of the fence(Excuse the Pun)

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48 03/08/2014 - 1:19 AM
By StrayCat
Looking at doing photography business part time tax problems?
To start with start a book/ledger, recording every outgoing related to the photography, and Incomings from the agency/Photography(Keep bills and receipts plus payment notes), at the end of the year you should get a self employed form to fill in,(As stated above, inform HMRS that you are self employed), which you transfer those year end figures too, this will make it clear how much you owe or are owed. will receive a p60 from work at the same time which you also transfer the figures

Its not as hard as you think and at the level you will be doing certainly not wise to employ an accountant unless again like above becomes your main source of income. at its simplest you fill in 5 boxes with these figures, sign and send off or do online and that's it.

Just keep an itemised ledger


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14 18/06/2014 - 6:02 PM
By mikehit
Which camera bag is best?
Before looking at a new bag, open your current bag, remove anything you have not used in the last two trips, Including lenses. Then ask yourself...Do you still need a new bag.

22 14/07/2014 - 4:41 PM
By LouiseTopp
How often do you (or should you) clean your Camera and Lenses???
As pointed out above there is no interval for cleaning your sensor, some go years with no clean, other like me do it every event I attend due to changing lenses in dusty environment's.
Unless you have visible dust on sensor avoid doing any sensor cleans as in some cases you end up making it worse.

Since I started using the butterfly, My swab cleans have been reduced dramatically which I hardy class as a clean anyway tbh as its a light brush over the senser.

8 10/06/2014 - 5:47 PM
By thewilliam
Beware - where you take shots of Kingfishers

Quote: It is an offence to take, injure or kill a kingfisher or to take, damage or destroy its nest, eggs or young. It is also an offence to intentionally or recklessly disturb the birds close to their nest during the breeding season. Violation of the law can attract fines up to £5,000 per offence and/or a prison sentence of up to six months.

No mention of a bird hide and the key wording intentionally or recklessly which is very hard to prove

5 07/06/2014 - 6:34 PM
By Ray12
Where does the money come from
Another point that is forgotten and I have no political axe to grind,

"Operation Sol in 1976, secretly landed a force of 50 men from the Argentine military under the command of Captain César Trombetta on the unoccupied Southern Thule, which belonged to the British South Sandwich Islands, where they established the military outpost of Corbeta Uruguay. "

We did very little about this except protest a lot and that was a labour government, what message did that send

100 25/09/2014 - 8:41 PM
By davidwithcamera
What one thing....
cliché, I know but the one overriding rule/observation that will take you through the periods when you don't seem to achieve anything is do it for the right reason. Don't take pictures for the sake of taking them. identify why you enjoy something and focus, for one person that may be entering comps, another it may be about getting your pictures in Print. There are a hundred other reasons.
Identify what you want to do and focus on that.
The second and most important is enjoy doing it.

31 22/05/2014 - 2:22 PM
By lemmy
Copyright
If the website is to showcase your pictures, putting a heavy watermark over them will destroy and interest in your site as they annoy people, If your selling them then a water mark is your best option, even that can be got rid of by talented people . using the minimum quality and size makes them pretty useless for most applications.

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9 03/01/2015 - 12:04 PM
By Fogey
seagate v wd
been asked a thousand times, the basic conclusion is that if like me you have used WD drives for years and never had one failed then they are the best. The fact I've not had any other does not come into the recommendation. it will be the same from those who have had the Seagate drives.
What did come out of these question was there was no guarantee on any of the main brands being any better than each other as there was as many failures on each brand. stick with the main brands and you have a good likelihood they may never fail.
But hard drives are a risk full stop, if your concerned about failure you should be thinking of buying 2 so that you can back the first up, im afraid that's the best advice ive seen.

Far better than me saying I always use WD and never failed on me in 5 years, although true..meaningless

15 07/06/2014 - 3:58 PM
By youmightlikethis
unlike a photo comment?
press the like again

3 17/05/2014 - 2:09 PM
By Morpyre
I am leaving this site
It can also have other " unwanted Attention" as illustrated in this advert





8 04/05/2014 - 10:07 AM
By KevSB
I am leaving this site
Yep, Im back. with tail between my legs, all I can do is beg for forgiveness, what can I say...It was a moment of madness. it turns out I did had not have any issues with the site at all, it was the tin of beans I had for lunch.GrinGrinGrin

8 04/05/2014 - 10:07 AM
By KevSB
Nice to be reunited with my camera
I suspect this happens to us all stu. been quite a while since Joe sites, I would have lost interest years ago, except I enjoy doing what I do not for the photography, but to support the hobby I love through Photography. Just invested in a video camera atm to give me a new challenge.

2 03/05/2014 - 8:45 PM
By KevSB
I am leaving this site
after 10 years its time to say goodnight Never thought id say that but what can I say Im bored Grin......
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.I will return tomorrow though.

8 04/05/2014 - 10:07 AM
By KevSB
Non-PC-powered portable storage
for example play com do 64gb SD CARDS AT 21.99, that works out the same as one device that you need power for and could fail all in 1 go and lose the lot, that's not even looking at the cheaper cards out there, and it may be worth looking at prices in the airport or when you get to the usa as they may be cheaper locally

6 19/04/2014 - 10:21 AM
By scottishphototours
Non-PC-powered portable storage
when I referred to Compact flash, I was indicating my system,

In your case storing on SD cards, storing in an x-ray bag for airport travel is as safe as using a portable drive, In fact safer as your pics are not on one single drive and should you lose a card then not the lot, the benefits of doing it this way they do not need power facility's should you be in a location without power to charge your device, they are cheaper storage per mb than portable drives.
cards nowadays are bigger and hold as much as these drives also.

Ive had some earlier versions of these drives and soon ended up in the bottom of my drawer.
One of those great idea on paper but not much use in the field.

For example, quick look online shows cheapest Non branded at 130 quid for 500gb , plus you need to buy spare battery's ect. ask your self how many Large SD cards can you buy for that and the total GB of those cards. and this is for a very cheap one, the Epson ones used to be in the 250 quid range as does the archos if I reccolect

6 19/04/2014 - 10:21 AM
By scottishphototours
Non-PC-powered portable storage
there was a thread some time ago, what did come out of it was that it was cheaper in most cases to buy compact flash cards and store your images that way. and just as safe as any storage device

6 19/04/2014 - 10:21 AM
By scottishphototours
Photoshop

Quote: Animation or video

I know absolutely nothing about video and that proves it! I make an animation and make it into a video. What would you call this? Is it animation or video. It's animated but I've made it's an MP4 which is video.

My understanding is mp4 is just a format much like raw and jpeg are to stills. the content is what is referred to as video or Animation , I think the term video has been lost in recent times, I make slideshows and everyone I know calls them Videos, yet I always call them Audio visuals.
In your case I would term it Animation

48 10/04/2014 - 8:04 PM
By Paul Morgan
Simplifying things?
gone through all of the above, and being in the field for a few days at a time, no chance of nipping home to get something, non professional I just carry 3 lenses and a body, the 50mm I never use but always take in case I do any thing at night.

The biggest compromise I do make believe it or not is bags, dependent on the location.

I have a full street and field system for those events when I am away from my base and on my feet all day walking about(a backpack would kill me over that time) and carry all ill need for the day.(battery/flash cards/rain capes/high vis vest/lenses/camera water proof bags/ear defenders/cleaning cloths ect/malty tool cos you never know).

If its a weekend where I have a base to work from I take a large backpack and just carry the minimal, often just camera with lens fitted. and store all the above in the bag at base

If im close to a base but need long lens and want to put bag on the ground when shooting from secure location then the bag which gives me quick access and hold flash and long lens, for example during a battle when I need to be mobile but not far away from my bag.

So for me the location is important

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21 11/04/2014 - 9:32 AM
By 779HOB
A.A. MEMBERSHIP ? Anyone any opinions ?

Quote: If you wnt to stay with the AA - Go on to the AA website, get a quote for your cover.
Phone them up, go through to the department for people who are leaving and ask why they are charging you so much for being loyal. They will the reduce it to around the same as the website.
Done this for the last 3 years and I have gold membership (not that I wanted it) for the same price as standard.

Exactly the same here, half quoted price. just do your homework to give comparison, service is excellent btw, matched greenflag

15 24/03/2014 - 4:21 PM
By polis_928tadw59
Festival reporter London - £200 fee
I know many amateurs that are superb, never wanted to be professional and doing it for 30+ years, Agree with Keith here, the difference is if you have the desire and skill has no relationship to it, In fact I know some professional wedding photographers that make me cringe when I see what they are charging for

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21 22/03/2014 - 7:54 AM
By 779HOB
I cannot delete pictures from my portfolio
what do you want the gallery to be for you!, The gallery's are something different to each of us, sharing with friends, seeking guidance, so many reasons, what was you looking for then we can possible guide you to getting the best from them

10 06/04/2014 - 9:14 PM
By sharpfocusphoto
Monitor advice required
These questions are very difficult to answer, Those with any one of the above will unlikely have one of the others so a comparison is impossible, Using a review site will be the best indication you will get tbh and far more accurate than a gut reaction/guess from someone who does not have all the above.

24 05/03/2014 - 11:58 PM
By dcash29
paranormal photos
I have just spent a couple of weekends in Fort Amherst in Kent, staying in the reputed haunted buildings, costs 35 quid a night for ghost watchers of which im not one, Scares the hell out of me tbh.
When in the tunnel's there are loads of artificial lights creating orbs on quite a few of my pictures, and tbh that's exactly what they are, reflected light. fortunately didn't see anything. although buried inside my sleeping bag most of the night too bloody scared to move Grin

28 23/02/2014 - 4:35 PM
By Carabosse
Canal Suggestions
I did the broads half a dozen times, and would go back tomorrow, no locks. and some fantastic photographic scenery. What great about the broads is the diverse places to visit, you can be in great Yarmouth one day doing Seaside pictures, Norwich the next doing city images and on the lakes the next day, throw in some historic houses, roman forts and much more. All this walking distance form your mooring, reasonable pub grub all along the waterways. some great nature reserves also, no lost time going through locks as prev pointed out.
I could fill a page listing all those places I would recommend but you couldn't do them in 1 week.

30 22/02/2014 - 4:24 PM
By SlowSong
how much is too much

Quote: I will tell you why I ask on a weeks hols from work and bearing in mind the dull weather was looking at tourist attractions less than 90mis train journey from Glasgow Edinburgh zoo and castle seem very expensive admission might go round the museums in Edinburgh or Glasgow.

Fair comment, I was thinking local lol.. the train/Bus company's have all sorts of deals with various attractions so may be good idea to contact them, also the tour excursion bus company's, they have all in prices to locations, far cheaper than going in car most of the time

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17 18/02/2014 - 12:07 PM
By altitude50
how much is too much
I'm not sure I understand the question, why do you feel that these places should discriminate against those who invest in cars and petrol!, surely the money that you pay on public transport is no different from the heavy taxes the car owner pays for the upkeep of the roads that the public transport uses.

17 18/02/2014 - 12:07 PM
By altitude50
For sale : Canon eos 5d mark II
Ignore the previous posters poor offer, I will add a pound to that, although can you let me know Does that include postage to uk! £11.55

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2 11/02/2014 - 6:38 AM
By KevSB
Another way to award images…
It was done before but I recollect it was stopped as again, the interest lapsed, that meant only half the pictures wasn't being assessed making it an unfair system, It only works when you can guarantee every image gets looked at, something Pete always did. the fact is all these ideas rely on reader participation, if that wanes then another idea fails.

47 10/02/2014 - 5:59 AM
By ColleenA
Insurance
As Catt suggested, Mine is also, any single item over 1 k has to be declared to be covered.

Just checked, Direct line is now 2000 for high value items removed from the house before they must be specified.

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12 03/02/2014 - 2:52 PM
By Gundog
Haworth 1940's Weekend - 17/05/2014
The market is flooded with ww2 events, every weekend there are a couple going on, all pretty much the same, the two that stand out are the Victory show and war and peace.
Festival of history, military odyssey and chalk valley are the best multi periods, couple big ones that will be exceptional this year will be battle of the nations in kent and Colchester .

These are the good ones, few more but the list would be endless going through the rest.

6 21/04/2014 - 11:29 AM
By FredDee
Festival reporter London - £200 fee
200 flat fee plus 100 pounds accommodation, 3 days for each photographer. As an income source its pushing the boundary's of acceptable and if I was a professional dependent on this for a living wouldn't even consider it, As am amateur who enjoys this type of photography and festivals in general, A fantastic opportunity to do what you love and cover your expenses.

Who was the advert aimed at the professional or the amateur is the question!

21 22/03/2014 - 7:54 AM
By 779HOB