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This is Charlie, not Charlotte, she is my oldest grand-daughter.

I have, for long, enough been trying to get to grips editing techniques and this is the result. V1 is the final version with V2 being the original cropped version, had to chop her Dad off, he spoilt the whole thing [he looks too much like his Dad Blush].

While I appreciate this is far from perfect, I would appreciate your input on what is good and what is bad about it and any hints and tips on editing that you care to offer.

At the moment I am extremely busy, but because I have been working so diligently my boss said I could have a couple of hours play time; bet you wish you had a boss like mine. I do have an unfair advantage.............. I am the boss Grin. The advantage of being busy is that I can not get lost again Sad

So many thanks to all who took the time to view and comment on my 'Colours of Summer' it is very much appreciated, additional thanks to John[lw] for his hints and tips getting me started on some editing techniques.

Tish

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D3200 Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:10 Mar 2013 - 4:09 PM
Focal Length:22mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.9
Aperture:f/3.8
Shutter Speed:1/30sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:320
Exposure Mode:Not Defined
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Auto, Fired, Return detected
White Balance:Auto
Title:A RIGHT CHARLIE
Username:Tish1 Tish1
Uploaded:10 Jul 2013 - 12:55 PM
Tags:Charlie, General, Portraits / people
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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 5barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 1:02 PM

sorry I cant help with the editing ..
I am a just take photos lady.... cant be bothered playing around on a computer
the hair hasnt worked with that background in my eyes... but tend to think we all think differently about photos ..and a good thing tooWink
also her colouring looks better in the original
full points for attempting thoughSmile

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johnlw
johnlw e2 Member 7johnlw vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 1:02 PM

Hi Tish two nice images.
Regards John.

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
10 Jul 2013 - 1:06 PM


Quote: Sorry I cant help with the editing ..
I am a just take photos lady.... cant be bothered playing around on a computer
the hair hasnt worked with that background in my eyes... but tend to think we all think differently about photos ..and a good thing tooWink
also her colouring looks better in the original
full points for attempting thoughSmile

Your observations are very much appreciated and thanks for the tip about Colours of Summer being a featured picture.


Tish

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capto
capto e2 Member 1599 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 1:29 PM

So nice to have a photogenic model in the family. Keep up the good work, the rewards are worth it.
I have enjoyed doing a quick mod.Smile

ivor

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lonely_oryx
lonely_oryx e2 Member 661 forum postslonely_oryx vcard England53 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 1:40 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

The edges are a bit rough. If you are using Photoshop try running around the edges with a very small brush (about 10 pxs) and hardness set to 100 (remember to reset this back to 0 afterwards).

You can also get tips and demo from YouTube (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPsAHYjvgRQ). If you are not using PS try searching on YouTube for the software you use.

It is difficult to give a full process of what you are trying to do in a comment.

Hope this helps.

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
10 Jul 2013 - 1:56 PM


Quote: So nice to have a photogenic model in the family. Keep up the good work, the rewards are worth it.
I have enjoyed doing a quick mod.Smile

ivor

.............. and I enjoyed viewing it, thank you so much, please tell me what you did and which version you used.

Tish

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
10 Jul 2013 - 1:58 PM


Quote: The edges are a bit rough. If you are using Photoshop try running around the edges with a very small brush (about 10 pxs) and hardness set to 100 (remember to reset this back to 0 afterwards).

You can also get tips and demo from YouTube (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPsAHYjvgRQ). If you are not using PS try searching on YouTube for the software you use.

It is difficult to give a full process of what you are trying to do in a comment.

Hope this helps.

Thank you, everything helps; if you knew just how bad I am at this Blush


Thank you


Tish

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barbarahirst
barbarahirst e2 Member 5barbarahirst vcard United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 2:04 PM

isnt great all the advice you are getting ...
helping me as wellSmile

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
10 Jul 2013 - 2:31 PM


Quote: Isnt great all the advice you are getting ...
helping me as wellSmile

Fill your boots!!!!

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ColleenA
ColleenA e2 Member 1112 forum postsColleenA vcard South Africa3 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 5:30 PM

Hi Tish, she is a pretty girl, cannot help with any tips unfortunately, flowers are my forteGrinGrinGrin

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miptog
miptog  83529 forum posts United Kingdom61 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 6:45 PM

Hi Tish

The tip from lonely_oryx should help with improving the selection, which will make it look more natural without "jagged" edges. Selecting "fly-away" hair is always very difficult, and most who do it have the hair against a plain background. The areas of hair in shadow and that against the arm is really only for a professional retoucher to attempt or to use specialist selection software.

The image seems "over-processed", so on the next attempt just don't be so "heavy" with the adjustment and just small subtle adjustments will improve it. You should fine that by small adjustments in levels, contrast, saturation and sharpness should improve it. This is effectively what I have done in the uploaded mod. I also "cheated" and used a crop to get around the distractions. I also applied some minor skin smoothing, as she has naturally beautiful complexion.

Hope it helps.

Last Modified By miptog at 10 Jul 2013 - 6:48 PM

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DicksPics
DicksPics e2 Member 2DicksPics vcard United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 8:36 PM

A lovely image of your grand-daughter and a tricky one to work on!
Wispy hair is always very difficult to cope with.
I liike miptog's comments!

Richard

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
10 Jul 2013 - 9:39 PM


Quote: A lovely image of your grand-daughter and a tricky one to work on!
Wispy hair is always very difficult to cope with.
I liike miptog's comments!

Richard

Me too!

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marktc
marktc e2 Member 342 forum postsmarktc vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 9:39 PM

A good starter for ten (says he who can't process at all). I like the result Tish, great work!

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capto
capto e2 Member 1599 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2013 - 10:58 PM


Quote: So nice to have a photogenic model in the family. Keep up the good work, the rewards are worth it.
I have enjoyed doing a quick mod.Smile

ivor


.............. and I enjoyed viewing it, thank you so much, please tell me what you did and which version you used.

Tish

My mod was all done in PS, briefly, I used the 'refine edge' tool+ a few tweaks with the clone and healing brush tools. I also made a duplicate layer and blurred it, then erased the top layer with a soft brush on the face, but not the eyes, mouth etc, this gives the complexion a nice soft glow. A few touches with the dodge & burn tools on the eyes, job done. If you google portrait tutorials, you will have plenty of detailed help at hand. It just needs practice, and I need lots more.

ivor

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 9708 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2670 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2013 - 6:04 AM

Though youve got a couple of decent mods. you need to start with a really good shot, and V2 has some issues.

Her face is not focused at all, and it seems the focus has fallen behind her face to where her dads sweater is. Make sure you select a single focus point (the flashing red or yellow boxes), and NOT multipoint, and place that point on her eye.


The shutter speed is too slow, and might have contributed to the face being soft, though that depends on the amount of light being supplied by the flash.

Try to diffuse the flash light, - simply taping a piece of tissue over the light can work wonders.


The simplest approach assuming the original was good, is a close crop, as in the mods, as theres noting wrong with the existing background. In fact, its far better than the replacement.


So youve got a load of learning in just one shot!



Regards



Willie

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
11 Jul 2013 - 10:50 AM

Thank you Willie

Great mod, much appreciated, and the advice is invaluable.


Tish

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12 Jul 2013 - 9:39 AM

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12 Jul 2013 - 11:32 AM

Photo processing/ editing is not my strong point, I just do the basics.
It seem there plenty of advice already given

Brian

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12 Jul 2013 - 9:07 PM

Hi Tish, I am a bit late in the day here with my twopennethTongue.... but I have done you a mod, I dont upload a deal of portraits on here, but I do do them... sometimes. I have had a play, cropped, but leaving the suggestion of the second person,desaturated, added a little diffused glow and given a sepia filter and a smart sharpen. oh I also added a little border too, not a massive fan of borders but I think it siuts some portraits.
Hope you like my modSmile
Diane

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Tish1
Tish1 e2 Member 1Tish1 vcard United Kingdom
13 Jul 2013 - 2:16 PM


Quote: Hi Tish, I am a bit late in the day here with my twopennethTongue.... but I have done you a mod, I dont upload a deal of portraits on here, but I do do them... sometimes. I have had a play, cropped, but leaving the suggestion of the second person,desaturated, added a little diffused glow and given a sepia filter and a smart sharpen. oh I also added a little border too, not a massive fan of borders but I think it siuts some portraits.
Hope you like my modSmile
Diane

A great job you have done too, thank you very much.


Tish

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