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This photo is made up of lots of different flower petals.
I have used A3 sized crafting light box for the Back light. I have placed a piece of yellow paper over light box as a background for the petals,then made my own flower shape.
Nothing else has been changed. Photo colours are as captured in macro.

I have not added voting to this image. I am trying the constructive critique gallery for the first time.
You welcome to add critique to help me View the image in a different way. I am no expert and I have no photography training. I like to experiment and come up with photographs that are different.


Thank you for viewing my photograph.

Brand:FUJIFILM
Camera:Fujifilm FinePix S4530
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:7 Dec 2012 - 5:52 PM
Focal Length:4.3mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.1
Aperture:f/3.1
Shutter Speed:1/50sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:400
Exposure Mode:Program AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:Back lighting petal flower
Username:Mototaur Mototaur
Uploaded:11 Dec 2012 - 1:06 AM
Tags:Flash / lighting, Flowers, Flowers & plants, General, Humour / fun, Macro / close up
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capto
capto e2 Member 2603 forum postscapto vcard United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Dec 2012 - 12:48 PM

Another artistic beauty.

ivor

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
8 Dec 2012 - 12:49 PM

thank you. it's a number of different petals that I made in to a flower

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Hermanus
Hermanus  1 South Africa
8 Dec 2012 - 1:43 PM

Excellent !! bright and beautiful - another uplifting beauty Smile

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
8 Dec 2012 - 1:52 PM

Thank you Hermanus GrinGrin

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Tibetan
Tibetan  1 England
8 Dec 2012 - 4:34 PM

Nice idea Zoe, good back lighting helps this a lot! always worth while, not been on had eye problems, to many hours on the PC. don't get caught out it can be painful, Regards Leon.GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
8 Dec 2012 - 6:59 PM

Hey Leon I hope your feeling better soon. I have spent the day offline, have been making Christmas cards for Mick`s work mates. They love my cards they ask for them each year. For dad and my cleaning customers. Also been designing a card for a dog walker friend.took photos of his lovely dog earlier just working on a few fun ideas. Have a good night
Zoe GrinGrin

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Chinga
Chinga e2 Member 3Chinga vcard United Kingdom
9 Dec 2012 - 5:48 PM

I like the light here... Wonderful image... GrinGrin
I'm enjoying this series of creativity! IB

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
9 Dec 2012 - 7:47 PM

thank you IB GrinGrin

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fificat100
fificat100 e2 Member 3fificat100 vcard Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
10 Dec 2012 - 12:08 AM

Like how V1 positively glows - the backlighting does the trick.

Lavina

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
10 Dec 2012 - 8:20 PM

Thank you Lavina GrinGrin

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stu8fish
stu8fish  1 United Kingdom
11 Dec 2012 - 1:08 AM

Bright & cheerfull. Neat.

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canonfan
canonfan e2 Member 3canonfan vcard United Kingdom
11 Dec 2012 - 2:04 AM

Beautiful work Zoe
Jim

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Ayoob
Ayoob e2 Member 2Ayoob vcard Australia
11 Dec 2012 - 4:05 AM

Beautiful flower, beautifully captured and presented........Grin

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom825 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 8:19 AM

I'm interested how images like this attract so many comments, and others, more conventional, don't. This is very effective and well thought out. Most technical aspects become irrelevant with such images. It is, for example, not very sharp, but the content lets you get away with that. I suspect hand holding and minimum depth of field.

Add a little more space to the top and a touch of top light into the main bloom. Not enough to effect contrast though.

v2 also effective, but not as good as v1.

Paul

Last Modified By paulbroad at 11 Dec 2012 - 8:20 AM

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 8:39 AM

Thank you all for the comments.

To answer your question Paul I will leave this to those commenting.
I made this photograph non voting as I wanted different view points.
So I can see areas I need to improve on.

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4204 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom128 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 9:18 AM

Really creative image. Just how successful such an image will be depends on who your aiming to please. your self, a buying public, critiques of art etc.
In my view you have better images created in a similar way in your portfolio.
I, like a lot of people, don't like yellow (I believe this is a fact but I stand corrected) and the yellow is in your face here.
Also the camera you used (I think) only works in macro at wide angles so the perspective is pronounced making the near petal much bigger. This
offends my eye a little.
The yellow is not even.
A small light or torch could be used to light up the centre, it is under exposed.
I've used a light box a fair amount and found it good for bring out the transparency of petals/flowers. I would have used 4 or 5 exposures here and blended them is a sort of HDR affect to avoid certain bits like the centre being under exposed.
It a lovely picture anyway,
Ian

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ErictheViking
ErictheViking e2 Member 1124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 1:05 PM

Over all I really like this image as it allows the colours of the flower petals to really come through better than conventional lighting. For me though I would have shot the image at a higher angle, this should help the depth of field as if I'm correct your camera isn't the best for manual settings. I also think taking the lead from Ian that a small focussed light on the centre would help highlight the colour in this area and balance the image. By the nature of the shot you will always have variations in colour tone as this is governed by the density of each petal and its distance from the flat surface, but you want to try and avoid really dark areas unless you want to achieve a silhouette effect.

I think V2 doesn't really work although I think I know what you are trying to do, next time try blurring out the shapes to leave just the colour tones remembering that you may have to use saturation boosted colours to achieve the effect. (See Mod for example .. done quickly so not perfect)

Hope this helps

Eric

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ErictheViking e2 Member 1124 forum postsErictheViking vcard Scotland102 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 1:06 PM

Don't know what happened but when I started my comment you had 2 variations now there’s 7 so if any of my advice is out sorry!!

Eric

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 1:08 PM

Thank you for the critique Ian
you have given me a few things to looks at . Never new macro worked only at wide angles. will check out the settings and have a play with camera.
Yellow colour not a problem for me I like colour. but I understand it's not every ones cup of tea.

small light or torch to light up center is a good call I was looking at this myself.
Christmas is coming it's on my list Smile
you have given me a few things to have a play with.
thank you for the help.

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 1:09 PM

No worries Eric I just added a few more from different angles I had taken.

Thank you for the critique Eric.
I found the red coloured petals where very thick and it was hard to find a good angle to get them to show up.
I will try the higher angle that was a good tip and also the torch or lighting above.

Thank you for the modification. I understand where your coming from.I could blend it in the image. but I would not leave the photograph like that as just a blob of blurry colours.

Many thanks for the help you have given me a few more angles to try.

zoe

Last Modified By Mototaur at 11 Dec 2012 - 1:14 PM

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Fefe
Fefe e2 Member 2Fefe vcard United Kingdom25 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 1:29 PM

Ooooo I like this! I have done you a mod, I couldn't resistGrin
I have messed with the exposure, reduced the saturation, increased the contrast and generally played. I altered the graduation curves and then recorrected the exposure. when I had finished playing and was happy there was more detail in the petals I gave it a sharpen. Hope you like itSmile
Often desaturating an image brings out detail, and adding a touch of contrast afterwards keeps the detail you have recovered but addssome of what you have taken away............. I hope that makes senseWink
Diane

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom825 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 1:53 PM

I am actually refering to the critique section in my comment. Some images attract comment, others don't, even in this section. The number of comments show lots of people actually look, but don't usually bother saying anything - or just 'great'.

Everyone, beginner or advanced, has an opinion. That opinion is always valid. Come on, you lot who rarely say anything, lets have some opinions.

Paul

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paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom825 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 1:54 PM

Your variations. Trying to make too much of one thing I think. Your original two choices are, by far, the best. V1 being the most attractive and very effective.

Paul

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 5:56 PM

Thank you Diane

I like what you have done. You made the red petals stand out more. The yellow is a little lighter as well.Thank you for explaining what you did. I will have a play with your tips with my next lot of photographs ,when experimenting.

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 5:59 PM

Thanks for explaining Paul.
This is why I thought I would try out the constructive critique gallery. It has no voting. I never thought so many people would be so helpful.

Thank you for the variant tip Paul it`s a helpful tip.

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 6:02 PM

Thank you everyone for the critique , modifications and tips.
You have all given me some more ideas and ways to improve my photographs.
Thank you very much. More help is welcome. I love new things to try.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 9710 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2671 Constructive Critique Points
11 Dec 2012 - 6:12 PM

Hi mini-moo. Its nice to experiment. You didnt actually chose not to allow voting, the fact you chose Critique Gallery which automaticall disables voting. Its entirely possible to upload this to the general galleries and unclick the voting box if thats what you wanted.

Back to the image. I will comment only on V1, as there are too many for the Critique Gallery. I like the colours. I dont like the small areas where very bright light had come through, - and you can simply paint over these with a sample of the yellow, - which Ive done in the mod. you have an area where the yellow background doesnt reach, top right.

I would like to see it more balanced. There a tendency for it to be top heavy because of that large bud. Its soft and indistinct, and this to me doesnt convey a deliberate attempt on your part, - it looks more like an error in not sharpening when uploading.

Having said that, theres lost to like is you have contrast sorted out by making black = black (it isnt here) and sharpen, then play with contrast.

Ive uploaded a mod with this done, and the aspect ratio altered, with a little blurring at both sides, and a more impressionistic mod that this type of image is suited for.



Hope this helps.


regards



Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 11 Dec 2012 - 6:37 PM

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 6:26 PM

Thank you Willie
I see what you are describing and it does make a pretty modification.
Thank you for all the different tips. These are areas I will play about with in my next experiment.
Thank you for the help about other different gallery settings. This was very helpful .

I am finding it very interesting how people have slightly different ways of viewing things and how differently they modify images.

Zoe Grin

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Mototaur
Mototaur e2 Member 126 forum postsMototaur vcard England
11 Dec 2012 - 6:46 PM

Thanks for the new modification Willie.
This gives out a more arty look. It has the blurry look Eric was suggesting But with more texture and sharpness .
Has lost some of the detail from your first modification.
I like the example.
Thank you for taking the time to show me

Zoe Grin

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