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I have taken this in a trip in Kavireloot in Iran desserts.
I think in such these pictures, it is not necessary to obey the rules, so I made my subject at the centre.
However, it will be my pleasure to have your critiques.

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon Digital IXUS 200 IS
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:29 Oct 2010 - 1:24 PM
Focal Length:21.5mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/5.9
Aperture:f/5.9
Shutter Speed:1/500sec
Exposure Comp:+5/3
ISO:80
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Flash:On, Red-eye reduction
Title:Camel
Username:nasers nasers
Uploaded:2 Aug 2012 - 6:37 AM
Tags:Camel, Wildlife / nature
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LynneJoyce
LynneJoyce e2 Member 6LynneJoyce vcard United Kingdom98 Constructive Critique Points
2 Aug 2012 - 6:53 AM

Lovely duotone portrait with great timing catching that mouth full of thorns open. I do think that it would benefit from some attention to 'rules' though, giving the animal space to look into and making it less central, and from better presentation, hence my modification.

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NDODS
NDODS e2 Member 43242 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom103 Constructive Critique Points
2 Aug 2012 - 11:55 AM

An image which left me cringing at the thought having a mouth full of cocktail sticks for breakfast. However a rather stunning monochrome tinted image.

Regards Nathan

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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
2 Aug 2012 - 3:43 PM

"I think in such these pictures, it is not necessary to obey the rules, so I made my subject at the centre."

On what do you base that assumption? I also could ask the same question about your upload "Old v New". Like Lynne I agree the composition could be improved even if I wouldn't quite go as far left as she did: your image with the eye pretty much central in both planes, to me leaves a lot to be desired. I would expect the eye to be on the third from the top as a minimum requirement in this situation.

I would aslo prefer to see a better background, maybe a different colour, but certainly I feel the blotch to the bottom left needs dealing with.

EXIF seems also to be in need of a little TLC. I am not aware of the aperture limitations of your camera but if it is possible I would be around f8 with a shutter speed of 1/250sec, I do not see the need for an exposure compensation of +5/3 as the sky seems to be quite dull and very similar to the luminosity of the subject itself. Red eye reduction is not required either as the camel is not facing you so that reflections of the retina will not be present.

I hope at this stage that you are not just breaking the rules for the sake of it. Please learn them first then when you become experienced you will know when it is correct or permissable to break them.

Please Google "Rule of Thirds", at least have a look at it.

Frank

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10868 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2867 Constructive Critique Points
2 Aug 2012 - 4:42 PM

This is a very good shot nasers. Well timed, and the toning is appropriate.

Its possible to extract some more detail from the eye, and the brighter areas, - the teeth and small areas of the hair are a little bright, and can also have more detail by toning down the highlights in these areas.


I have done this in mod1. Mod2 is the same shot, with a duo tone using more brown, slightly darker. Mod3 Ive loaded an aspect ratio that does come closer to a thirds composition. Ive dome this without cropping the Camel, but by adding space. You can see the difference easily this way. The main thing is that its a good shot, and its a matter of preference if you prefer the central, or "rules based" image. I prefer the thirds.




Regards



Willie

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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom853 Constructive Critique Points
3 Aug 2012 - 7:18 AM

This is quite good and I have no problem with a central composition - it works here. In fact, I would crop much tighter all round to remove most of the sky and just have the head dead centre. Just needs a bit more contrast and a stroke with the dodge tool to lighten the eye.

Paul

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nasers
nasers  2 Iran, Islamic Republic of
4 Aug 2012 - 5:13 AM


Quote: An image which left me cringing at the thought having a mouth full of cocktail sticks for breakfast. However a rather stunning monochrome tinted image.

Regards Nathan

Thank you so much.

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nasers
nasers  2 Iran, Islamic Republic of
4 Aug 2012 - 5:15 AM


Quote: "I think in such these pictures, it is not necessary to obey the rules, so I made my subject at the centre."

On what do you base that assumption? I also could ask the same question about your upload "Old v New". Like Lynne I agree the composition could be improved even if I wouldn't quite go as far left as she did: your image with the eye pretty much central in both planes, to me leaves a lot to be desired. I would expect the eye to be on the third from the top as a minimum requirement in this situation.

I would aslo prefer to see a better background, maybe a different colour, but certainly I feel the blotch to the bottom left needs dealing with.

EXIF seems also to be in need of a little TLC. I am not aware of the aperture limitations of your camera but if it is possible I would be around f8 with a shutter speed of 1/250sec, I do not see the need for an exposure compensation of +5/3 as the sky seems to be quite dull and very similar to the luminosity of the subject itself. Red eye reduction is not required either as the camel is not facing you so that reflections of the retina will not be present.

I hope at this stage that you are not just breaking the rules for the sake of it. Please learn them first then when you become experienced you will know when it is correct or permissable to break them.

Please Google "Rule of Thirds", at least have a look at it.

Frank

Thank you Frank. I will try to learn more and more about the rules. It will be my pleasure to have your suggestion about my next pictures.

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nasers
nasers  2 Iran, Islamic Republic of
4 Aug 2012 - 5:16 AM


Quote: This is quite good and I have no problem with a central composition - it works here. In fact, I would crop much tighter all round to remove most of the sky and just have the head dead centre. Just needs a bit more contrast and a stroke with the dodge tool to lighten the eye.

Paul

Thank you Paul.

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nasers
nasers  2 Iran, Islamic Republic of
4 Aug 2012 - 5:17 AM


Quote: This is a very good shot nasers. Well timed, and the toning is appropriate.

Its possible to extract some more detail from the eye, and the brighter areas, - the teeth and small areas of the hair are a little bright, and can also have more detail by toning down the highlights in these areas.


I have done this in mod1. Mod2 is the same shot, with a duo tone using more brown, slightly darker. Mod3 Ive loaded an aspect ratio that does come closer to a thirds composition. Ive dome this without cropping the Camel, but by adding space. You can see the difference easily this way. The main thing is that its a good shot, and its a matter of preference if you prefer the central, or "rules based" image. I prefer the thirds.




Regards



Willie

Thanks a lot for your modifications.

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