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I took this at the recent airshow at Duxford. Were it not for what I have learned from others on epz, I would have said this was a Messerschmitt Bf 109. In reality it is a post WW2 version with a Rolls Royce Merlin engine, made for the Spanish Air Force. Had the 1969 "Battle of Britain" film not been made, it is unlikely that this aircraft would still be flying. I hope you like the shot.

Title:Buchon
Username:Nigel_95 Nigel_95
Uploaded:2 Jun 2011 - 8:00 PM
Camera:Canon EOS 7D
Lens:200mm f2.8L + 1.4x conv
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Tags:Sports / action, Transport
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kinfatric
2 Jun 2011 - 8:35 PM
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Excellent Nigel.

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2 Jun 2011 - 8:49 PM
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Thanks Kin and other voters.

Nigel

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2 Jun 2011 - 8:50 PM
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Great take and interesting info Nigel, as a boy I collected these planes, "Airfix "and had them hanging from the bedroom ceiling.
Adrian

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2 Jun 2011 - 8:56 PM
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Excellent capture indeed,very well done,
saeid

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2 Jun 2011 - 9:10 PM
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Thanks Adrian and saeid. Adrian, I too was an Airfix fan, but I didn't have them hanging from the ceiling.

Nigel

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2 Jun 2011 - 9:26 PM
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Looks great perfect exposure for the propeller movement

Brian.....................................

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2 Jun 2011 - 9:56 PM
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Quote: it is a post WW2 version with a Rolls Royce Merlin engine, made for the Spanish Air Force.

This one certainly will be.
They were supposed to have been built by Hispano in Spain beginning in 1942 using Hispano-Suiza V12 engines but they didn't actually produce any until 1945 when the Spanish engine was found to be insufficiently powerful so production was stopped and restarted after the war when Rolls-Royce Merlins (which had been superseded by the griffon by that time) became available.
Another snippet of completely useless information!

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 2 Jun 2011 - 9:57 PM
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2 Jun 2011 - 10:07 PM
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Not completely useless to me, I didn't know they were supposed to be available as early as 1942. Thanks for that.

Nigel

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2 Jun 2011 - 10:34 PM
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Glad to be of some assistance Nigel.
WW2 aircradt, patricularly Axis ones have been something of a hobby of mine since my schooldays, a long time ago but when that kind of information was still fresh in many peoples' minds.

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2 Jun 2011 - 10:49 PM
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My Father and his brother were always a mine of information on WW2 aircraft for me, but they didn't tell me about Merlin engined 109's.

Nigel

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Jestertheclown
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2 Jun 2011 - 11:04 PM
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If you're interested there was also a Merlin engined version of the Heinkel He111 bomber, also produced in Spain after WW2 and I've a feeling that they were the ones used in the Battle of Britain film along with the Buchon.
Obviously, there were far fewer aicraft available to film than you actually see so apart from increasing their numbers by the use of camerawork, many of the aircraft you see in the film are actually radio controled models flown by a team flying alongside in a converted Liberator bomber!
There's a seriously useless piece of information for you!
I can't recall the name given to the Heinkel/Merlin bomber though.

Edit:It was the "CASA 2.111." I had to look that up though. Must be slipping!

Last Modified By Jestertheclown at 2 Jun 2011 - 11:07 PM
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2 Jun 2011 - 11:13 PM
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I didn't know anything about the Heinkel using Merlin's, but I do know about the Spitfires made from a mould, and the moulded example on display in a hanger at Duxford. The RC aircraft were obvious to me from their flying characteristics, and were IMO the worst aspect of the flying sequences. I havn't seen the film recently, but all Stuka sequences were RC aircraft as I remember it.

Nigel

Edit: I was typing my reply before reading your edit.

Last Modified By Nigel_95 at 2 Jun 2011 - 11:14 PM
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2 Jun 2011 - 11:35 PM
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Very rare are the original 109's Nigel. Imperial War Museum had a captured 109 G that crashed during an airshow, it now resides in Hendon RAF museum. Excellent in flight image of this imposter. Ron.

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2 Jun 2011 - 11:38 PM
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Quote: The RC aircraft were obvious to me from their flying characteristics, and were IMO the worst aspect of the flying sequences. I havn't seen the film recently, but all Stuka sequences were RC aircraft as I remember it.

I have to agree with that and yes, I think you're right about the Stukas too. As I understand it, they were death-traps in real life and the few that survived the war were summarily destroyed.

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2 Jun 2011 - 11:43 PM
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Thanks for that Ron. I'm not sure how much of it is original, but there is a crashed Bf109 on display at Duxford. It is very close to the moulded Spitfire mentioned in my last comment.

Nigel

Edit: comments crossed Jester. So that's another thing I didn't know before, I was unaware that Stukas were death traps. I'm off to bed, goodnight Smile

Nigel

Last Modified By Nigel_95 at 2 Jun 2011 - 11:48 PM
sherring
3 Jun 2011 - 9:24 AM
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A very nice shot and some interesting information too.

Steve.

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6 Jun 2011 - 12:43 PM
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Thanks Steve.

Nigel

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11 Jun 2011 - 9:05 AM
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Crisp detailed shot......like the info.
Martin.

Brilliant.

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24 Jul 2011 - 11:33 AM
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Thanks Martin and John.

Nigel

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8 Aug 2011 - 2:22 PM
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Sharp and detailed shot of the 'big throat' Nigel.

The other big giveaway, other than the throat scoop, is the placement of the exhausts. The Me 109 has an inverted engine so the exhausts are lower down.

Epicuros
5 Oct 2011 - 6:31 PM
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It's a very good photo, but I, somehow, thought that this is the panoramas' department. You can't have, possibly, photographed an aircraft in flight, using panorama techniques!

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