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This beach at Montana De Oro state park, halfway between San Francisco and LA, has some of the most incredible geologic formations on the California coastline that I've seen yet. I made some long exposure images when that low fog moved in, that show off the structures and I may upload those later.

I had to get in close to the action to show the wet rock in detail. In fact, I had moved in little too close just a few minutes earlier. The results of which you can see in the variation I've posted. See that version large. How refreshing! And there was no way to run on this sort of surface......

1/4 second exposure @F10 with ND grads 0.9 + 0.6

Camera:Canon EOS 5D
Lens:Canon 17-40L @18
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:De Oro Surf
Username:PatrickSmith PatrickSmith
Uploaded:26 Nov 2007 - 2:51 PM
Tags:Big sur, California, General, Landscape / travel, Rock layers
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Maddie
Maddie  92714 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:00 PM

great layers of rock there Patrick, looks like you had my kind of fun Wink

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thewaiter
thewaiter  121177 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:03 PM

dramatic coastline.... great capture Patrick.

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Kris76
Kris76  7 Canada
26 Nov 2007 - 3:05 PM

Very nice capture, both of them. However, I prefer version 1 for some reason...

Cheers

Kris

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Scottishlandscapes
Scottishlandscapes e2 Member 968 forum postsScottishlandscapes vcard Scotland35 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:10 PM

I wonder why after all you weresoaked anyway Patrick, must have seemed like a good idea at the time.

All the very best
Dougie

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 3:21 PM

Thanks for your comments!

Um, yes Maddie, it was LOTS of fun...lol...!

Well Dougie, I ended up soaking wet for the rest of this evening. But it was worth it for the shots I got.

Patrick

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Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73823 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:31 PM

Brilliant - I ythink I would have used No2 as the main image as it has so much drama, wish either was on mt hard drive - No wonder Maddie has been laid low with a cold Wink

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Maiwand
Maiwand e2 Member 7Maiwand vcard England69 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:38 PM

Magnificent presentation Patrick. Superb reflections of the sky in the water and the waves breaking over the FG rocks gives a great feeling of life and animation. Fantastic FG rock formation.
Ron

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 3:38 PM

Yes, Maddie appears to like swimming these days. She would be no more if she went swimming here!

Patrick

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graeme34
graeme34  7 United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 3:44 PM

Both versions are stunningly captured, superb

Graeme

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glyndwr
glyndwr  766 forum posts Wales9 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:44 PM

Crikey !
I like both versions, V1 my favourite.
A great shot, the detail you achieved is stunning.
PS; thanks for recent comment.

Robert

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riprap007
riprap007  91568 forum posts England37 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 3:46 PM

really like the drama of the second one, excellent dynamics and a sight to scare any tog!

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graceland
graceland  92376 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 4:02 PM

Both Great ,,But love Number 2

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Bodiewil
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26 Nov 2007 - 4:07 PM

Love both of them, superb

Dave

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imander
imander  7388 forum posts United Kingdom7 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 4:09 PM

what a fantastic rock formation, love the waves and no2 is just great
ian

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Nettles
Nettles  7 England
26 Nov 2007 - 4:28 PM

WOW, now they are bloomin good shots with perfect timing.
Two excellent images. Annette

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Hanners
Hanners e2 Member 8875 forum postsHanners vcard Ireland10 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 4:32 PM

looked at #2 large and got a soaking - thanks for that!!! Wink Tongue

Two cracking images Patrick, love the detail you've caught in the rock formation in #1 and the drama you've captured so well in #2, excellent stuff.... Smile

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paulcr
paulcr  91536 forum posts Ireland9 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 4:53 PM

Your right Keith,. the action in the second version is excellent. Pal

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piccy
piccy  8 Wales
26 Nov 2007 - 4:59 PM

Wow, took my breath away - and you lived to tell the tale (and take more pics). Keep it up.
Freda

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jken
jken  81672 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 5:01 PM

Great capture (both). Amazing geology.

john

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jeanie
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26 Nov 2007 - 5:05 PM

Ah so thats why you were getting wet!

LOL!

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proz
proz  9205 forum posts United States
26 Nov 2007 - 5:06 PM

A stunning shot Patrick.

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 5:10 PM

Thanks for stopping by! It's a close race between version 1 and 2 so far.

Yes Jeanie. Even your leaky Wellies are of no use here! And there were no cute surfer girls to save me like how Maddie was saved a while back! And swimming here means an early demise for sure.

Patrick

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ian walker
26 Nov 2007 - 5:12 PM

No 2 for me.

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Kevlar
Kevlar  8160 forum posts United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 5:22 PM

Brill patrick - very nice- the colours of water look amazing in all your shots

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Dotrob
Dotrob  8 Wales
26 Nov 2007 - 5:28 PM

Great seascape, super f/g.
Dot

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elkiebrooks
26 Nov 2007 - 5:36 PM

In Navy terms, you've been goffered. Hope the camera survived this ok. Well worth the effort on both images. They are quite spectacular. Take it easy out there though there aren't always lifeguards and lifeboats around.

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kinfatric
kinfatric  9550 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 5:46 PM

fascinating rock structures, I hope nothing was damaged with the soaking

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phillips
phillips  869 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 5:48 PM

He wins, he scores...again!

Guy

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StevenPrice
26 Nov 2007 - 6:01 PM

a superb image Patrick i like the shiny rocks in the foreground then the whoosh of the waves topped of by the superb sky. the 2nd version looks really dramtic dont get washed away.

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cheesey
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26 Nov 2007 - 6:03 PM

This has the Wow factor again Patrick. Well timed and composed. Definetely worth the soaking. I think I'd have legged it before the version 2 shot though.
Regards Cheesey.

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 6:06 PM

Thanks for dropping in! I was careful despite how it looks.

Cheesey, this was actually taken after version #2. I had a plastic bag, so I got drenched and kept on shooting!

Patrick

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bobalot
bobalot  7 England
26 Nov 2007 - 6:09 PM

just perfect.

Bob

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Badgerfred e2 Member 7Badgerfred vcard Wales
26 Nov 2007 - 6:26 PM

Two superb images Patrick, I have a slight preference for No.1,
Fred.

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Mari
Mari  101825 forum posts Wales
26 Nov 2007 - 6:27 PM

Very nice Patrick, just love the shape of those rocks

Occupational hazard of a landscape photographer - a soaking while taking beach shots, however hard you try to stay dry, not so bad in the summer but in winter a bit more uncomfortable lol

Mari

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Photogene
Photogene  8176 forum posts Wales
26 Nov 2007 - 6:31 PM

Well worth getting drenched for, stunning images.

Richard

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Glostopcat
Glostopcat e2 Member 8231 forum postsGlostopcat vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 6:35 PM

Two excellent images Patrick, you've certainly gone beyond the call of duty for the epzer's to get these superb shots!

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AngelaR
AngelaR  9155 forum posts United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 6:38 PM

These are superb work Patrick - the rock formations are great. No wonder you got soaked with those waves!

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joeleblu
joeleblu  7
26 Nov 2007 - 6:39 PM

Loverly rocks and wave action .

Ray .

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 6:43 PM

Thanks for looking! I guess it was worth it!

Yes Mari, though the water is cold year round here. About +11c-16c. And the fog that moved in did not help along with the giant sand dune I had to climb to get out of there. I was wet and sandy!

Patrick

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chrissd
chrissd  8304 forum posts United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 6:45 PM

a moment in time, well caught patrick, excellent work Smile
chris

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SRSmith
SRSmith  6 United States
26 Nov 2007 - 6:48 PM

The wave action in #2 is quite spectacular. You have to watch those sneaker waves. Smile

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martinl e2 Member 10248 forum postsmartinl vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 7:13 PM

A click for both images Patrick. The second one has that Oh sh*t feeling, as you just know there's nothing you can do about the impending disaster!!
Martin

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Buffalo_Tom e2 Member 82322 forum postsBuffalo_Tom vcard Wales9 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 7:33 PM

Superb exposure Patrick.Lovely work.
Tom.

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pamelajean Critique Team 8752 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1578 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 7:36 PM

V2 is my choice for drama, V1 for a great shot. Those "slices" of rock are amazing, like they have been stacked against one another by human hands.

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robincoombes e2 Member 7robincoombes vcard Wales5 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 7:36 PM

Stunning as always but v2 has something extra about it

Robin

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toonboy
toonboy  975 forum posts United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 8:00 PM

Great photography

Regards Ken

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Scott_Scot
26 Nov 2007 - 8:01 PM

No 1 is good but no 2 is fantastic! Smile

Scotty

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Nigel_95
Nigel_95 e2 Member 8259 forum postsNigel_95 vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 8:19 PM

The results are stunning Patrick, but I still worry for your safety.....

Nigel

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martin.w e2 Member 12351 forum postsmartin.w vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 8:36 PM

A lovely image Patrick, I like the capture of the wave. Number 2 is well caught too....just before your refreshing bath Smile

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Briwooly  8452 forum posts England5 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 8:38 PM

All been said Patrick but superb all the same

Brian......................

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bricurtis e2 Member 91894 forum postsbricurtis vcard England48 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 8:47 PM

Well worth the soaking Patrick. No 2 is very dramatic but I think I must go for the final result.
No 1 for me.
Brian.

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debster
debster  10693 forum posts England3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 8:56 PM

Wow, how powerful is that wave action? I'd have probably been swept away.....I get so engrossed in what I'm doing I forget to watch for such things!!

I particularly like all the rock detail in the foreground too!

Debbie

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pfheyes
pfheyes  10254 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 8:58 PM

Number two is the winner for me - the exploding wave looks almost unreal (it probably felt unreal too when it hit you lol).

Pete

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angej
angej  9477 forum posts United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 9:03 PM

excellent as usual Patrick, very well captured but surely you had yer wellies and brollySmile)

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Eviscera
Eviscera  81097 forum posts United Kingdom149 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 9:13 PM

no 2 captures the essence of time ! , no doubt its everlasting.

superb

dave

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ericfaragh
ericfaragh  10121 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 9:18 PM

Wonderful rock formation, seems to be combing the waves, great sky to back it too.

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MalcolmM
MalcolmM e2 Member 8MalcolmM vcard Scotland3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 9:46 PM

Slight preference for no 1 because of light on sea & great rock formations, no 2 is so dramatic though.

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paulb20
paulb20 e2 Member 7paulb20 vcard United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 9:56 PM

Interesting rock formation which gives a superb foreground and your timing is spot on. Like the sky too. Number 1 for me Patrick.
Paul

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PatrickSmith
26 Nov 2007 - 10:25 PM

Thanks for your comments! So far #2 is ahead, though Malcolm and Paul just above have made it a closer race..

You're right Steve (Amethyst_Imagery).

I know exactly what you mean Martin(L)!

Pamela, they are like stacked pancakes.

Don't worry Nigel, I am a good swimmer. Probably should get a crash helmit and padding though! And an underwater housing for the camera....

Yes Martin(W), it was very refreshing fur sure!

Well Debbie, if you Duck and hold on to the rock, you can usually be fine.....

It definitely felt real to me Pete!

Patrick

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PaulHolloway e2 Member 7PaulHolloway vcard Scotland3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 10:27 PM

Great rocks and spray. No1 for me. No 2 too close for comfort!

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taggart
taggart e2 Member 942 forum poststaggart vcard United States12 Constructive Critique Points
26 Nov 2007 - 10:33 PM

Oh! MT! the texture in the rocks is outstanding, the spritz is indeed refreshing
View of the ocean, breakers and sun ? set is marvelous


Spectacular image-- Well, more like awesome!

Jennnn

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phototime
phototime  8 United Kingdom
26 Nov 2007 - 10:41 PM

A stunning shot Patrick,love the version 2 with that big wave.Wonderful.

Mo.

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ashley
ashley  10167 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 12:30 AM

nice timing ,version 1 for me

Ash

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colin
colin  9697 forum posts Scotland5 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 12:33 AM

Love the big splash in the second one, Patrick. You did well to save the camera.

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PatrickSmith
27 Nov 2007 - 4:51 AM

Thanks for your comments! #2 still has the lead though the gap is narrowing.

'Spritz' Jennnn? Um, I guess that is one way to put it!

Yes colin, the camera is safe under the plastic bag!

Patrick

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glazzaro e2 Member 970 forum postsglazzaro vcard United States23 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 5:06 AM

Hey Patrick, hope you had a great thanksgiving! By the way I just put in my order for the Nikon D3, let you know what its like when I get it.

Great shot, especially like the way the light brings out the color variations in the rock, another excellent piece of work! Spot on! Click!!!

Greg

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imagio
imagio  7 England1 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 8:06 AM

Excellent work, love the movement in 2.

Bernie

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chris-p
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27 Nov 2007 - 9:21 AM

Many times have been in that situation with No 2 pic Smile

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TelStar
TelStar  9116 forum posts United Kingdom
27 Nov 2007 - 10:18 AM

I love 'em both, Patrick.

Tel*

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franken
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27 Nov 2007 - 10:33 AM

Both versions are superb!!

Ken

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Valerie1
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27 Nov 2007 - 11:01 AM

Another stunning seascape! Well capture.
Valerie

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dawnmichelle
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27 Nov 2007 - 2:18 PM

WOW these images are both stunning and the second version is like 3d with the wve coming at you. What timming. Honor to be 101.

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tepot
tepot  94416 forum posts United Kingdom
27 Nov 2007 - 2:26 PM

Great colours and textures in the foreground rocks, better than salt point i would say, i also like the light from the sky spreading across the ocean, i like this one best for the general scene as the light is better but the other one is obviously better for the wave action.

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iajacks
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27 Nov 2007 - 3:14 PM

like how the water look like its being directed by the formation of the rock, the shot as a good sence of motion and I love the fleck of sun on the clouds.

nice one ian

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PatrickSmith
27 Nov 2007 - 3:28 PM

Thanks for stopping by!

It was good Greg. Let me know what you think. I hope yours went well too.

Me too Chris! I just don't show them unless they look good.

Yes Michelle, there was a small one on the way with bigger ones behind. This was not easy.

Terry, it is at least as good as Salt Point but I was only able to get to a part of it on this evening. But Salt Point has more surreal formations I think.

Patrick

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49er  8564 forum posts
27 Nov 2007 - 4:07 PM

Now I cant work out which one I like best. But if pushed No 2 has the dramatic feel for me. I was born by the coast and would spend a lot of winter days standing on rocks getting soaked by waves.. A thing you would get stopped doing in this 'nanny state' we have now...

I would be happy to have either on my wall though..

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Sezz e2 Member 9617 forum postsSezz vcard England15 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 4:36 PM

You work never fails to impress Patrick - love both shots but especially No2, really up close and personal! Smile Worth the soaking!

Sarah *

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MickyMc  6 United Kingdom
27 Nov 2007 - 5:28 PM

Great shot i absolutly love the little rivulets of water on the rock in the back ground. Glad you did not fall in.
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Jou©o  1056 forum posts Finland
27 Nov 2007 - 5:45 PM

S&S.....110........

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RockArea e2 Member 7RockArea vcard United Kingdom3 Constructive Critique Points
27 Nov 2007 - 5:57 PM

That's a great image, Patrick, and it's great to see the extra one too.

David

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clive burrow
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27 Nov 2007 - 6:26 PM

Love the shapes of those foreground rocks.
Excellent work
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robway e2 Member 9317 forum postsrobway vcard Wales
27 Nov 2007 - 9:25 PM

Two fantastic images.
John

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Possum  7148 forum posts England
27 Nov 2007 - 10:43 PM

Those rock formations are wonderful, so it's No. 1 for me... that said, love the drama of No. 2 - and glad you survived to tell the tale and share these beauties.
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steve allsopp
28 Nov 2007 - 12:02 AM

ver 2 has got to get you a soaking!!
both strong images, nice work
cheers

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HarryStan
HarryStan  950 forum posts Australia
28 Nov 2007 - 8:49 AM

Excellent captures, both of them. Tonyhanners has put it well detail in v1 & drama in v2

Alan

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PatrickSmith
28 Nov 2007 - 4:01 PM

Thanks for your comments! #2 is still ahead by a small amount.

LOL Edgar, we have a bit of the nanny state effect going here. You woudl like this beach though. Lots of big surf and very very fresh air!

You're right Sarah, though I didn't think so at the time....

Patrick

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rmr
rmr  7 Wales
28 Nov 2007 - 7:33 PM

wow ,super shots ,didn"t think ther would be room left to comment .lol .
well done
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bayleaf
bayleaf  6 United Kingdom
28 Nov 2007 - 8:53 PM

Superb. Some PF you've got there Patrick.

John.

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Pegon
Pegon  978 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
28 Nov 2007 - 10:24 PM

Both great shots Patrick, I can't choose one over the other, I like No1 for the light that brings out the texture on the rocks, and No2 for the drama with the wave.
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lauraHB  8121 forum posts Ireland
29 Nov 2007 - 4:23 PM

Wonderful shots patrick, I don't know which one I prefer. They really pack a punch.
Laura

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PatrickSmith
29 Nov 2007 - 4:45 PM

Thanks for dropping by!

It is still a close race with #2 slightly ahead.

Patrick

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dianah  724471 forum posts United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
29 Nov 2007 - 5:04 PM

I think I prefer the first one but they are both excellent. If you go from one to the other there is tremendous movement.
Di

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MediumSizeUnavailable

Did you curse after V2 ?
You did, didn't you ?
admit it... did you use the F word ? Blasphemy perhaps ? both ?
Smile

A very fine photo Patrick. Has all the ingredients that make your photos so recognizeble. Particularly the lack of people lol.
beautiful colours, patterns and that beautiful and slightly weird spray to finish it off.

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PatrickSmith
29 Nov 2007 - 5:31 PM

Thanks Di!

Me Koen? Use naughty words? Never!

Well, I did use "GD" as in that sure was a Gosh Darn big wave!

And I used "MF" as in "That is sure some Mighty Fine sea water I'm swimmin in!

but no, no naughty words....

Patrick

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cantona43 e2 Member 8873 forum postscantona43 vcard England4 Constructive Critique Points
29 Nov 2007 - 7:26 PM

outrageously stunning its a cracker
Neil

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Dotrob  8 Wales
29 Nov 2007 - 10:03 PM

Sorry Patrick I commented but must have forgotten to click.
Dot

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PatrickSmith
29 Nov 2007 - 10:18 PM

Thanks Neil!

And that is okay Dot.

By the way Koen, every shot of mine should get an EC just for my ability to hide the 7 million people that live in the San Francisco area!

Patrick

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AnneWorner e2 Member 6606 forum postsAnneWorner vcard United States41 Constructive Critique Points
30 Nov 2007 - 3:01 AM

Two spectacular images, love the drama of the splash in #2. Lucky you to have the surf, it's enviable.
Anne

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jaktis e2 Member 1081 forum postsjaktis vcard Sweden
30 Nov 2007 - 10:27 AM

A dramatic capture the other version and this is as stunning as we have get used to. Great

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wamp  8276 forum posts England8 Constructive Critique Points
30 Nov 2007 - 11:13 AM

Stunning shot. Like the breaking wave very much, the detail/clarity from the rocks is very nice

Sean

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30 Nov 2007 - 4:48 PM

beautiful image

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ChiliMan e2 Member 7135 forum postsChiliMan vcard Singapore17 Constructive Critique Points
30 Nov 2007 - 5:24 PM

Holy smokes, Patrick, that was some splash reaching out to grab you in v2!!...lol...glad you kept the cam dry!

You know what? I actually prefer v2 for the sheer power...but the rocks in v1 really...er...rock! I've never seen those sort of formations - quite stunning, aren't they??

A Smile

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skydivemike
1 Dec 2007 - 8:00 PM

Stunning work as always Patrick.

Mike

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Wooly  8112 forum posts England4 Constructive Critique Points
2 Dec 2007 - 8:08 AM

Excellent seascape Patrick, very well timed shot.

Alan

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PatrickSmith
3 Dec 2007 - 2:49 PM

Thanks for your comments! #2 is still slightly ahead so far.

Andrew, I saw these on Google Earth and another website that shows arial photos of the entire California coast and I was still amazed when I first saw these formations.

Patrick

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rmr  7 Wales
6 Dec 2007 - 7:29 PM

click ,wow ,well deserved 150 ,superb image
well done
mark

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xinia
xinia  954 forum posts
7 Dec 2007 - 12:16 AM

..Patrick..I can imagine you must have got a bit of a soaking - version 2 certainly demonstrates the drama. - right in your face Smile

the first is wonderful - the linear patterns of the splash go so well with those of the rock - gorgeous light throughout.

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MikeA  91151 forum posts England
10 Dec 2007 - 7:21 PM

2 has drama but 1 has the light and the detail Patrick.

MikeA.

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claret
claret  1049 forum posts England
7 Jan 2008 - 1:22 PM

Hope you and that camera are well insured.
Iain

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Hugeknot  91212 forum posts Iceland2 Constructive Critique Points
21 Feb 2008 - 11:27 AM

#2!
The capture is superb!

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cassiecat  639 forum posts England46 Constructive Critique Points
1 Oct 2008 - 10:38 AM

v2 is amazing. lesley

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