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A couple of weeks ago I heard that a storm was headed our way. So I parked the car at the familiar tourist pullout where about 15 tripods were all set up awaiting the sunrise. Then I hiked 500 feet down a hill in the dark (not something I recommend before work!) to be on this beach for sunrise. I was hoping for some stormy and moody skies but saw this instead.

I had to desaturate the raw file by 5% because the reds were getting blown out. The unusual colour of this beach is partially from the sunrise colours plus the sand itself is a dark red! (See variation #2)

0.3 second exposure @F13 with ND grad 0.9

Camera:Canon EOS 5D
Lens:Canon 17-40L @18
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Golden Gate Dawn #1
Username:PatrickSmith PatrickSmith
Uploaded:5 Nov 2007 - 4:01 PM
Tags:Architecture, Beach, Golden gate bridge, Landscape / travel, San francisco
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svatos
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:03 PM
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nice colour

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5 Nov 2007 - 4:03 PM
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well captured
Mark

dianah
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:03 PM
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The bridge is a wonderful silhouette against the colour and light in the background. Delicate in its own way and a beautiful image.
Di

Out Bloody Standing,Unreal Image
Sam

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5 Nov 2007 - 4:06 PM
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Great subdued colours, & timing to get the effect of receding waves. Lovely.

mattw
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:08 PM
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Beautiful Patrick - love the colours on the sand.
Keep a spare change of cloths and shoes in the car for work just in case...

Mounters
5 Nov 2007 - 4:10 PM
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Both shots are stunners.......................as usual

Guillaume
5 Nov 2007 - 4:11 PM
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Wonderful pictures

Never amazes me how many different moods/atmosphere you manage to inspire from this location, golden gate for many reasons.. so love the quality of the shore.. whole image truly stunning

Nikki !

Hanners
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:15 PM
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as ever Patrick your work is just sheer quality.... Smile

Jou©o
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:17 PM
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one of your best for a while, IMO......

Superb shot! Vers 1 is my fav.....Nice to see the other side too....I took some shots 180 degrees difference today....it looks very different too.......Into the sun, at least...

Jouko

Kris76
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:17 PM
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Great photos. I especially like the water effect in version 2.
Kris

Thanks for your comments. It's a busy day at work but I'll be dropping in when I can.

Good idea Matt! I do clean up in the bathroom at work before I start. Lots of poison oak here.

Yes Nikki, this place is different every day. You just never know what is going to happen.

Thanks Tony, with a good dose of luck thrown in as well!

Thanks Jouko, it was a bit of a surprize, but I'll take it! Let's see your versions.

Kris, I'll be trying to capture view #2 with a better sky later.

Patrick

Last Modified By PatrickSmith at 5 Nov 2007 - 4:20 PM
dp
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5 Nov 2007 - 4:38 PM
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Just the right shutter speed on this Patrick, but I would expect no less!

Dave

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5 Nov 2007 - 4:50 PM
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Beautiful Patrick it looks superb fantastic work

Brian...................................

Both shots are very nivce Patrick....I think I prefer the second one. 2 completely different shots with a quick turn of the hips!

Steve!

fentiger
5 Nov 2007 - 4:51 PM
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Excellent wide angle composition with great detail and lovely pastel colours.

Albert

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5 Nov 2007 - 4:56 PM
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Majestic - the colour on the sand creates the distictive mood of this I think
Robh

phototime
5 Nov 2007 - 5:00 PM
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A wonderful shot Patrick,excellent composition and beautiful light.


Mo.

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5 Nov 2007 - 5:06 PM
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patrick

fantastic - as ever

SRSmith
5 Nov 2007 - 5:09 PM
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Both shots are superb. I agree with Nikki's comments - talent shows no matter the location.

pmorgan
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5 Nov 2007 - 5:16 PM
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Both supreme images!

Rgds
Paul

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5 Nov 2007 - 5:17 PM
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Beautiful technical work.

chrisco
5 Nov 2007 - 5:17 PM
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Very nice shot Patrick,captured it well! Smile

Kevlar
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5 Nov 2007 - 5:19 PM
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Stunning as ever

Maddie
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5 Nov 2007 - 5:20 PM
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bet you didn't get your feet wet, looks good patrick Smile

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5 Nov 2007 - 5:21 PM
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Two superb images!!

Ken

cheesey
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5 Nov 2007 - 5:25 PM
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Another cracking composition Patrick. Beautiful colour tones and sky.
Regards Cheesey.

Thanks for looking!

Steve, I'll be back to get that one with a better sky I hope! Yes, hardly had to take more than a few steps to get that one.

Bet I did Maddie! I had my shoes off and my pants rolled up. I needed to get into the water for a closer view and I did bring a towel. But the hike up the hill made me sweaty so I had to clean up a bit when I got into work! And then there is the poison oak...uggh.....

Patrick

Last Modified By PatrickSmith at 5 Nov 2007 - 5:26 PM
Mari
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5 Nov 2007 - 5:37 PM
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Glad to hear you got your feet wet, Patrick - this photo is even better now I know that LOL

Superb tones and subtle colour

Mari

DaveU
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5 Nov 2007 - 5:43 PM
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It's lovely Patrick in a subtle and understated sort of a way. Some beautiful colours in there.

paulsteds
5 Nov 2007 - 5:44 PM
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I'll have to return to work to get up at this time in the morning, however I wouldn't be able to get down the hill anyway Wink
Super capture and well worth the effort.
Paul

Like both very much - great effect with that water!
Pete

Tandberg
5 Nov 2007 - 6:13 PM
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sweet colours and mood in this Patrick
Well done
Dave

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5 Nov 2007 - 6:20 PM
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Wonderful colours and composition. A superb sight! JNC

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5 Nov 2007 - 6:25 PM
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Superb,
Fred.

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5 Nov 2007 - 6:28 PM
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You do grand work Sir, many congratulations.

All the very best
Dougie

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5 Nov 2007 - 6:37 PM
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Another superb shot with so much detail throughout the image.

David

MikeA
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5 Nov 2007 - 6:39 PM
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Two super images Patrick, the second looks very dynamic, one almost be sucked into the sea by those retreating waves.

MikeA.

Thanks for dropping by!

Yes Mari, very wet! I gave up running back and forth and took off the shoes!

Thanks Mike. On the second one, the waves are advancing because I wanted to overlay the water movement on top of the fine grains of sand that were not moving for part of the exposure.

Patrick

MikeA
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5 Nov 2007 - 7:07 PM
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Wet feet then Smile

MikeA.

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5 Nov 2007 - 7:12 PM
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There are so many quality elements to this picture, but I especially like the lines, the diagonal wave and the pastel rainbow colours of the fg sand.

Another stunner.
That little touch of city sky line is a wonderful touch.

Simon

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5 Nov 2007 - 7:19 PM
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Hope you dont mind but its No1 for me. Its such a fabulous looking structure that I live in hope that one day I might see it. Coupled with that fabulous sky and waterit seems just perfect.
Ron

debster
5 Nov 2007 - 7:37 PM
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They're only good photos if you get your feet wet Patrick! I just usually forget to take my shoes off where I get so engrossed!

I think I'd like this place very, very much Smile
Beautiful images with some lovely light and colour.

Debbie

Superb! Gorgeous sky.
Marilyn x

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5 Nov 2007 - 7:56 PM
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Excellent Patrick - a wonderful mixture of colour and effect...

martinl
5 Nov 2007 - 8:14 PM
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Both are wonderful shots, and are perfect examples of why you should always look in both directions when out shooting. Look at what you would have missed if you had just concentrated on the one shot.

Martin
Smile

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5 Nov 2007 - 8:29 PM
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Two wonderful shots, Superb.

Yogendra

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5 Nov 2007 - 8:57 PM
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Lovely tranquil colour and light.....superb composition as always.

gill

Thanks for stopping in!

LOL Mike...yep!

No Problem Ron, though #2 looks good at a larger size. The sand is amazing.

LOL Debbie, I did that on one recently. I just totally forgot and soon a foot of water surrounded me. I didn't even bother to try to move. You'd like the whole coastline a lot Debbie. Come one out and I'll give you guys the grand tour. I'll even drive!

Thanks Martin, it is always a good idea to look at everything when you get into a good situation.

Patrick

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5 Nov 2007 - 9:04 PM
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That is rather wonderful Patrick. I'm glad you had the clouds to give you this beautiful sunset.

Nigel

Down right incredible image. Like this one alot. Great looking water. Nicely done!!!

Took your shoes off and rolled your trousers up ferchrisakes? - you'll never make a pro.

Wink

Last Modified By Kris_Dutson at 5 Nov 2007 - 9:26 PM

Thanks Nigel and Danny!

LOL Kris, you gotta do whatcha gotta do! Plus I think it helped with the poison oak!

Patrick

ashley
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5 Nov 2007 - 9:34 PM
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nice comp & light
just the right effect with that water

Ash

I really like both of them Patrick, great exposures.

Scott

firzhugh
5 Nov 2007 - 9:51 PM
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beautiful tones and exposure

graeme34
5 Nov 2007 - 9:55 PM
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Both are stunning! version 1 is just excellent

Graeme

Last Modified By graeme34 at 5 Nov 2007 - 9:55 PM

I'm glad to see some clouds made it your way, Patrick, and you were able to make good use of them. I especially admire the beautiful colors reflecting under those clouds and the city visible in the distance. Excellent!
If I had a location like this on my way to work, I would always be late.

Eric

It was well worth the effort because that is some scene.

AngelaR
5 Nov 2007 - 11:11 PM
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Wonderful work Patrick - love the red sands in no.2.

Sezz
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5 Nov 2007 - 11:21 PM
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Superb view Patrick, I like the buildings in the distance and the reflection of that wonderful sky on the wet sand - excellent work again!

Sarah *

Thanks for your comments!

Yes Eric, lately I've been looking over as I go to work (after checking the weather sites and webcams) to see if the time is right. I hope to get a bunch of good ones this winter and at least one more 'fog under the bridge' shot before the summer fog goes away for this year.

LOL Sarah, now why did I think you'd like the buildings???

Patrick

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6 Nov 2007 - 4:40 AM
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lovely shot Pat, better sky than i had for my san fran sunrise last weekend. did you hike down from the first pullout as you go up the hill or the second one? i know there is a pathway from one of them but i can't remember which one, i was going to Sausalito this weekend to try to find that spot where you got your early morning shot but i'd like to try this one instead as the tide will be low at sunrise and there is rain and clouds forcast, might give me a great sky, sounds like i need to beware of the poison oak and take a flashlight with me at that hour of the morning?
Also i need to get there an hour earlier than last week since the clocks have gone back.....Grrrr

Last Modified By tepot at 6 Nov 2007 - 4:41 AM

Hey Terry,
I hiked down from that first pullout. That is where the pathway is. Yes the quick route has the poison oak and the slower and longer route is easier but takes a while to travel the distance. A flashlight helps though I had the moon at the time, which was barely enough. 06:30 sunrise now, so you should be on the beach before then. It takes at least 15 minutes to get there from the pullout.

Patrick

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6 Nov 2007 - 8:43 AM
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I love both versions. Classic photography.
John

martinw
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6 Nov 2007 - 8:57 AM
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Both are crackers Patrick.
Martin

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6 Nov 2007 - 9:55 AM
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Wonderful subtle shades of colour in the FG Patrick.
Your low vantage point tucks the distant buildings nicely under the bridge - I like that.
Brian.

Really nice.

Being really picky i would of liked to see the far left edge of the beach ,theres room for losing that amount from the right of shot?

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6 Nov 2007 - 10:16 AM
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The small wave has been very nicely captured Patrick and the sky does have some lovely colour it too

Sean

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6 Nov 2007 - 12:52 PM
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Like both shots Patrick, the colour reflected on the wet beach is beautiful.

Gary

Thanks for stopping by!

Yes Brian, there are many variations you can make with the framing of the city by the bridge depending on how high up the hill you climb. I do like this version. You can also make the city float just above the road deck.

I did try it Kim, but the left side is very dark in the shadow of that cliff, which just gets bigger and bigger. And I wanted to show the bit of colour on the sand on the right side. I was nearly wide open at 18mm so that was the limit.

Thanks Sean, the smaller waves worked better for some reason. The big ones were too chaotic that morning.

Patrick

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Both images are beautiful.. I think the calm waves on the 2nd image are stunning... A great feel of calm..

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6 Nov 2007 - 5:38 PM
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Absolutely stunning, as are all your shots.

Valerie

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6 Nov 2007 - 6:11 PM
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Two images of the very highest quality Patrick, just what we've come to expect from a man of your calibre

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6 Nov 2007 - 6:22 PM
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Stunning - love the reflections in the incoming tide water. Love the faint skyline of SF in the background.
Anne

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6 Nov 2007 - 6:26 PM
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Smashing shot.

John Smile

rmr
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6 Nov 2007 - 6:38 PM
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simlpl stunning as are all of you"r images
superb work
mark

glazzaro
6 Nov 2007 - 6:52 PM
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What can I say but that your work always inspires! To that note I was under some bridges this weekend at the C&N Canal trying to duplicate a similar shot you did in Hawaii, not could enough to post but I am working on it. Wink Spot on! Click!!!

Greg

P.S. I have been moving around so much I have not even had a chance to read up on or think about making the trip to Florida for the event, though it would be nice since Florida is my home. I will send you a message later after I have looked at the site.

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What can I say but that your work always inspires! To that note I was under some bridges this weekend at the C&N Canal trying to duplicate a similar shot you did in Hawaii, not could enough to post but I am working on it. Wink Spot on! Click!!!

Greg

Thanks for having a look!

Yes Greg, it takes several attempts to get the hang of it. You need a cloudy day or at least for the sun to be down or shaded. F22, maybe an inverted ND grad filter if the water is brighter than the top. Then as if gets darker, the exposure get longer until eventually you get your shot. Once you go over 30 seconds you have to guess so after a 30 second exposure, go for 40. After 1 minute go for 1:20. 2 to 3. After 3 minutes you may have to go for 7!

Definitely let me know about Florida. It sounds extremely interesting!

Patrick

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6 Nov 2007 - 7:14 PM
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Thought it was the Humber Bridge from the Thumb Patrick, but knew it was yours so it couldn't be.

Malcolm

I actually prefer no. 2 does that make me different Smile but as always both are excellent

Robin

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particularly lovely range of subtle colours in the first one Patrick - a quiet and serene feel to it

btw - thanks for your comments - much appreciated Smile and also looking forward to seeing some more star trail shots when you get round to it - all the best Smile

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Stunning as always.
tim

Gota just love the mood in this Pat, really lovely


Colin

Thanks for your comments!

No Malcolm, but maybe someday.....

LOL - Well Robin, a little different but 3 others agree so far.

Yes Maggie, there are only a couple of days per lunar cycle where I think conditions are right for what I want to do, so it may take a while!

Patrick

chrissd
7 Nov 2007 - 5:27 AM
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glorious shot Patrick Smile
chris

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7 Nov 2007 - 12:39 PM
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Great shot, like this lots
Rick

imander
7 Nov 2007 - 2:35 PM
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really wonderful photograph, produced to such high standards
ian

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7 Nov 2007 - 3:10 PM
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Delicate reflections on the sand from the beautiful sky . Makes a good backdrop for the bridge . xx

bayleaf
7 Nov 2007 - 3:11 PM
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Both are quite stunning. What a wonderful portfolio you have.

Best wishes,

John.

Topo
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7 Nov 2007 - 3:56 PM
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I love the pearly colours in this - fantastic portfolio well done - Mandi

Wonderful warm light under the clouds, lovely reflection in the wet sands.

proz
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7 Nov 2007 - 5:50 PM
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WOW, your photogrpahy is never less than brilliant Patrick and this one is true to form. It's Brilliant.

LisaRose
7 Nov 2007 - 7:34 PM
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Another stunner Patrick, love it.

Lisa

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7 Nov 2007 - 10:09 PM
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Love the muted colours - composition, as always, first rate. Bruce

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8 Nov 2007 - 7:10 AM
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It's the delicate colours of the reflections in the wet sand and receding water that make this so special for me, and such good balance in the composition.
Allie

AlleyCatz
8 Nov 2007 - 9:16 AM
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Excellent images Patrick.
I was thinking to comment what Allie has already written.


~Alley~

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8 Nov 2007 - 10:16 AM
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Superb Patrick.

Alan

Thanks for stopping by!

There are lots of ways to do it Mavis. I'll be making other views with the city in different spots.

Same thing happes to me Alley!

Patrick

BOTH are gorgeous. I prefer the GGB image a bit more, but both are stunning!

terrific work as usual Mr S. Marvellous
Cheers

kcranmer
9 Nov 2007 - 2:05 AM
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Ok...I've seen a million golden gate shots...but this is BY FAR the best one I have every seen, wow and amazing in every way!! my brother is a tug boat dispatcher there...so this is really a special image to me! vTd

Thanks for dropping in!

Kellie, thanks for the kind words. Everybody shoots the bridge from the same old boring viewpoints and boring light, so it is time do do something new with it. I have a tugboat in one of my photos on page two called Bay Bridge - HDR. I wonder if he is affected by the oil spill.

Patrick

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paulb20
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9 Nov 2007 - 8:39 PM
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Absolutely stunning Patrick.
Paul

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9 Nov 2007 - 10:04 PM
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Totally agree with my husband - absolutely stunning. Well done too for hiking down a hill in the dark to take this.
Sandra

alyismad
10 Nov 2007 - 9:38 AM
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Wounderfull shot Patrick

Steve

Superb work.

Smithy

Ceciliat
11 Nov 2007 - 5:52 AM
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Good composition and attractive colours - nice effect of the waves too. Spectacular view indeed...
Well done.

tripodted
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12 Nov 2007 - 10:11 PM
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Beautiful work, Patrick.
Ted

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13 Nov 2007 - 9:54 AM
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More amazing work patrick.....
Babs

Thanks for your comments!

Patrick

MickyMc
13 Nov 2007 - 6:06 PM
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Really fabulous could not choose a favourite.
Mavis

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13 Nov 2007 - 9:26 PM
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I LOVE THEM BOTH... hope you have these hanging on your wall. I love them did I say that already???

ChiliMan
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14 Nov 2007 - 4:43 PM
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Ooo...I loooooooooooove the water in V2!!

A Smile

Thanks for dropping by! Not enough wall space to hang them right now.....

Patrick

Nettles
15 Nov 2007 - 6:40 PM
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Great sky and bridge, but I really love the way you have captured the water.
A super image. Annette

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15 Nov 2007 - 7:49 PM
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A beauty Patrick.
Pete.

Marian
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8 Dec 2007 - 2:12 PM
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It's all been said!!!
Marian

wyatturp
8 Dec 2007 - 7:47 PM
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Fine picture

DougSmile

Thanks for your comments!

Patrick

Gaz_H
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11 Dec 2007 - 6:44 PM
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Absolutely superb, love the composition with the bridge span in the background and the water movement in the foreground.

Thanks Gary!

Patrick

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