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Another street shot without any intrusion this time. What you cannot see is the owner of the hand. An old lady in a wheelchair outside a bingo hall.

EOS 7D with 18/250mm OS Sigma at about 200mm (320mm). 1/600 @ f8. Aperture priority. ISO200. Hand held.

Paul

Camera:Canon EOS 7D
Lens:18-250 Sigma OS
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Title:Fag Break.
Username:paulbroad paulbroad
Uploaded:2 Nov 2012 - 7:32 AM
Tags:Fag, Hand, Lady., Old, Portraits / people, Smoke
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Focus_Man
Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2012 - 9:19 AM

A super idea here Paul with us wanting to see behind the screen to the left. My only problem with this, and it may only be me, is that my eyes are being drawn to the incompleted text and my attempt to make sense of it. This is taking my eye away from the main thrust of your composition, the lighted cigarette. I could perhaps argue for a crop to the base which would not detract from your idea and might help compositionally, but generally I like it as it is but with my one little suggestion to change the end left panel to make it less eye-catching.

I have uploaded a mod to see thee ffect and have tried to make it in a complementary shade of colour.

This will, as I am sure you are aware, make an excellent 'stock shot'.

Frank

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alistairfarrugia
alistairfarrugia Critique Team 1164 forum posts Malta88 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2012 - 6:50 PM

Tried my hand at a mod as well.

I went for lighter colours, and a different crop.

The message I was after with this mod is the effect of smoking, so colour changed to a more faded skin-colour, and sharpened to show the skin's texture (and wrinkles) more. As Frank said, this could be stock photo material for sure.

I understand it's oversharpened but I did so for demonstration purposes only. Having the original RAW, one could go for a similar effect.

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gajewski
gajewski e2 Member 9gajewski vcard United States9 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2012 - 7:28 PM

I like this shot. It drew my attention even as a thumbnail. However, now that I read your description, I am really curious and wondering what it might look like if we saw this woman in context with the BINGO sign.
This doesn't take away from my interest in this shot -- only makes me curious to see more.
Nicely done.
-=\Walter

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
2 Nov 2012 - 7:41 PM

Yes, it's already winging it's way to a couple of stock libraries. Like the mods, particularly number 2. Very stark and shows the smoking message well. The lady was very old, very wrinkled and was smoking 'rollies'. Original is a JPG. I rarely shoot in RAW as discussed before. Whilst I agree RAW IS BEST, I Shot a couple of hundred frames at least on this weekend, mostly different lighting. Life is too short to process all of those via a RAW converter.

If I remember, I press the RAW button on the 7D if a shot looks good, but 90 times out of 100, the processed RAW looks just like the best JPG anyway. RAW is something I use for jobs and known difficult situations.

Paul

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iancrowson e2 Member 4209 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom128 Constructive Critique Points
3 Nov 2012 - 9:52 AM

Seems fine technically. I understand now it was taken to (hopefully) be bought by someone from a stock library.
It would be helpful Paul if you had said the aim of the image when posting. I was at a loss to understand the image.
Now I'm tuned in to the idea there is a message I have to say it is "not stop smoking" but "people who smoke can grow old" .
On the intrusion issue, does a person's face have to showing in the pic, maybe the old lady could with justification object to her hand being photographed. (For commercial use) .
Ian

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
7 Nov 2012 - 5:33 PM

I think it would be very difficult for the old lady to prove that was her hand if an issue arose after publishing. Most of my images are shot with a view to library use or potential sales in other ways. I tend to use that criteria as my reason for shooting. It is interesting to see what images are accepted into libraries, then which sell. I don't do it to earn money, I would soon starve, but the bit I do make buys more gear.

Almost every decent image may be of use to someone, and it is up to the user what interpretation they use, providing that it is not used as an insult to the subject, should they be identifiable. Some libraries will not take images of people, even silhouettes without release documents. Others will, as either editorial images or for use without release. In the UK a release is often not needed.

Paul

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xwang
xwang  531 forum posts7 Constructive Critique Points
8 Nov 2012 - 10:17 PM

Hello Paul,
It was last weekeed after I saw this photo, I noticed an old lady's hand holding a cigarette sitting in a scooter outside an amusement arcade. Her finger was gone yellow, I thought:" Erm.. I found a better one..Grin". The truth is that I would never notice a woman's finger holding a cigarette in this way, without seeing your photo.. When I saw this photo, I liked the clarity and DOF. It looked almost 3D.. Obviously, it is a very strong image. A lot of your photos are very memorable..
Jas.

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