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very nicely done
I wanted to put this in the description but couldn't for some reason:::
I finally decided I dislike the country that reared me. It was a gradual realisation but now confirmed.
My grandfather, who had a huge influence in my life, always told me that the Irish were the greatest nation on earth. He used to say that we had the potential to be one of the richest countries in Europe and that one day people from all over the world would want to come and live here. He was correct. We now enjoy the status of being the wealthiest country per capita in Europe. However, it came at a price. I no longer recognise the people here anymore. Gone is the friendly nature that we were so famous for. A persons worth here is now measured in the car he drives and the size of the house he owns and not by what he did for the community lately. We sit in gridlock getting more and more frustrated as the needles on our petrol gauges spiral downwards. We have become a greed ridden, property obsessed country with no regard for our neighbours anymore. Not content with building 10s of thousands of apartments and buying to rent, mostly to the foreign workers who have come here to build them from eastern Europe, we have become one of the largest buyers of properties abroad. Mostly in Eastern Europe. Ironic eh.
Our government ministers constantly complain and warn us that we our wages are too high and this is bad for the economy,and yet they are corrupt and multi-millionaire businessmen pay no tax at all and we work more hours that any of our European friends. This, in the most expensive country in Europe and where couples on two relatively good incomes have to pay more for childcare than they do on their mortgages. Where people dread getting sick or having an accident because you will get even sicker in hospital or spend weeks on a trolley in a corridor because there are no beds to put you in.
Our politicians constantly tell us that we have never been so wealthy or well off. And yet, I know of no-one who would profess to be wealthy or even well off for that matter.
The government has gradually been reducing, and stopping, the money they give to local councils for services. So who pays now? We do of course. We pay with our large salaries. 30 years ago my father raised 5 kids in a 4 bedroomed house in Dublin on a single average industrial wage. Show me onyone who can do that now. So wheres the progress and whats it all for anyway?
Please let me off at the next stop.
Roar on the Celtic Tiger!
I like this a lot Paul - get's the message across well.
If a picture paints a thousand words .... you've posted both !! Great image with the central figure almost in 3D due to the zoom blur background. Like it. Dave.
Great image,like this a lot
Thanks Guys. Took it yesterday in Grafton street Dublin. Paul
Needs no comment from me the photo says it all.
Very well expressed!
Hi there. Fantastic shot taht tells much.
I have been to Dublin twice. Come to Poland and check what is happening here. You will be happy to come back home, I bet!
like the photo. see an EC there, may be that reliefs the pain of diappointment.
Michal, Ireland is the most popular destination for Polish people to emiigrate to. Poles make up most of the Eastern Europeans who are coming in here. We even have a Polish supplement in one of our daily newspapers. One part of the country was even talking about putting up Polish road signs.
But its all relative Michal and everything comes round. In 15 or 20 years you will have people emigrating to Poland too if your economy benefits enough from entering Europe.
Thanks for looking. Paul
The image superbly expresses the description.
It's eleven years ago that I left Ireland (spend 8 months there as a student). I saw a telecast lately showing that lots of the Irish feel the way you feel. Ireland must have changed immensely. When I was there I was kind of exotic as a German.
Have to go back to see for myself what the financial backing of the EU caused out there.
Anyway, welcome to the world I was born into. It's all about what you make of it.
I know that. You are right. This world goes in the wrong direction. peace
Excellent shot, with impassioned reasoning behind it.
I think that the situation described by you Paul is something that seems endemic within the UK as well.
Everything seems to be gauged by the house you own, the money you make, the car you drive and like you, I feel increasingly sickened by it as time goes on.
Hello Paul, the contrasting detail from your figure against the background has strong impact...read your explanation with interest. Good shot.
Thanks for the interest guys. Its great to be able to express yourself in words and images, kind of theraputic.
Elke, after 11 years you'll be coming back to a completely different country.
Micheal, seems the whole world is going that way then, I despair.
Very powerful picture. And I sympathise with the sentiment behind it.
Great one! Click from me! Regards, Abdul
Hi Paul... just popped in for a quick word:
First the image: One of the best images I've seen in a very, very long time and if it doesn't go photo of the week then I'll go out and drink even more guiness.
The commentary: I can identify with everything you said. However like my father, yours probably had nothin to his name, except his name, worked hard, lived hard and died younger than he had to. Everything is trade-offs. Ghandi said, "Be the world you want to live in", if you think it is wrong then lead by showing people how to get somewhere else. Everywhere there are examples of where the human spirit endures and thrives and is not consumed by greed.
I first interpreted your image as a man who has just found his freedom and released himslef from all the crap that surrounds him.
forgive the amature philosophising.
Thanks Conrad and Abdul.
Phil, fine sentiments for which you are indeed forgiven lol. Your right really, my father has nothing else except his home. Worked hard from a young age, as did I. Your interpretation is partially correct. I do feel a relative freedom as I have never bought (forgive the pun) into the trappings of modern "needs". I don't own a house. Even if I could afford one here now I don't know if I would want the chains of a mortgage for the next 30 years, if I live that long even. I also feel a sense of having let off quite a lot of steam here. Isn't art great lol. Pauul
very strong image and words. I agree with most of what you say and it makes me sick when you talk to some friends from back in the old days who wiped their arse with newspaper because they couldn't afford to buy toilet roll, who now look down on you because you still live in the same place and haven't moved on to the plush areas of Dublin or don't drive the 06 fancy car.
But for me, this is what makes me rich, as I am still the same person who remembers wiping my arse (excuse the word) with newspaper as a child because my mother could not afford anything better.
I appreciate everything I have because of it. I look forward to the day when the economy falls flat on its face and these so called Irish people have to downsize their fabulous houses with their bespoke furniture to something that they were reared in. Don't get me wrong I say fair play to people who have done well, I have done well myself, but don't forget where you came from.
As for the Government, well, I am not going to go there!!
So Paul, be proud, but be proud to call yourself a true Irish Man.
love the photo, and I fully empathise with the story behind it. Much of the same could be said for our country.
I am proud Laura. Proud of where i have come from. That will never be taken away. If I didn't deep down love this country, it's culture and heritage I wouldn't be so hurt by whats going on here now.
I don't live in Ireland though my people were Irish. Oh God but don't we love the hardships of life, does it not give us meaning when we can parade our raggity arses in front of the hoipaloi and be proud that at least it is a good arse that's showing through the tear where pockets once were. Wouldn't the priests that mangled our spirits as children be proud of the diginity with which we wear our suffering and prevail on us to endure it like the good saints of a dying church once did. But even though I put my hand in my pocket and find but a penny piece, I know I am the richest man on earth, for I have my pride and dignity and my religion is my people. I am enfused with the culture and traditions of a folk so ancient there is no telling of our beginnings and in hard times the music of all that went before stay with me. The traditions, songs and stories of millenia are trapped in the very marrow of my bones and it is when I put my hand in my pocket and only find one penny, the songs come dancing out; the stories wrap themselves around me at the fire in the dark of the night; and my traditions like old friends come to sit be my side and comfort me. My people will endure, I will endure.
Hi Paul, first and foremost the photo is outstanding. As for your comments well I have never been there and trust your comments to be true all I can say is this type of problem is everywhere, in Scotland we wanted our own Governments so much to take care of our own problems and what is the first thing politicians do at the sniff of power squander our tax money on one of the most horrendous parliament buildings or building straight for that matter, award themselves a commemorative medal worth thousands and give themselves a pay rise. Power to the people not in my lifetime or my kids. Any identity people have is gone in favor of stealth taxes and corruption on a level never seen before.
Take care mate.
Thank you Cole and Shane.
Phil, I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT BETTER MYSELF!
is it a quote?
Victor, As you know I really do appreciate your praise so thank you for that.
Quote: what is the first thing politicians do at the sniff of power squander our tax money
OUR TAX MONEY..OUR TAX MONEY...I really don't think any politician in any country in the world has copped on to the fact thats it's OUR TAX MONEY!
Jeez I'm really letting it go today eh..
Extremely effective way of conveying your thoughts. Excellent shot and concept.
Thank you Martin, I'v achieved it then. Paul
Culture shock is a brilliant title Paul! As an outside observer visiting Ireland/Dublin regularly, I have certainly witnessed a nation in shock. The term two sides of the same coin also springs to mind though. I see mass migration into Ireland as a good thing. My Irish grandfather had a huge influence on me as a child too. The "patriotic" comments overheard at a young age stayed with me for MANY years... and I was always made feel bad for NOT being Irish (I'm half english). Of my large family there, I have a few cousins too whose attitudes over the years have got me down on a personal level.. I had even started to see them as slightly Xenophobic, which in my eyes had always been dressed up in patriotism. I don't really think they are, but there are certainly elements of it. I've never been a one for flag waving, and I've never been "proud" of my Irish roots because attitudes there have never allowed me to be that. So I find it now rather ironic that Ireland now has to face the challenge of integration with other nationalities. Especially ironic as the Irish people for whatever reason have spread themselves around the world rather generously. Which is no bad thing in my book. Living in London I've always ENJOYED being part of a multi-racial community. Ireland is a "completely different country" now as you said above, but who's to say it's not going to be all the better for it in the long run. Unfamiliarity with situations breeds fear of sorts. People adjust over time.
As for the corrupt politicians and excessive house/apartment building programs, sadly that isn't just an Irish phenomenon.
I also found it extremely funny when recently an Irish cousin of mine was harking back to the good old days of mass unemployment and that the young folk today were just clueless because they didn't know what it was to not have a job *Grin* .... You have to see the funny side of that.
Hi Paul.. not a quote.. came straight from the heart.. Phil
Lesley there is not even a grain of xenophibia on my part. My partner is Latvian. I think the influx of foreigners into this country is brilliant. For years before this began I had always been saying that we need to throw a few other nationalities into our mixing pot here. I have no problem with that.
My problem is with the sad decline in the uniqueness of the Irish people.
Cheers Phil. PAul
Sound like it could be anywere in the uk as well Paul..Sad to say...
Thanks Matthys and Don. Paul
I found the Irish in no way xenophobic ... as long as you're not English
P.S.: One Irish friend once said to me that the Irish like the Germans..."just because the English hate you!" (very strange compliment, I admit)
Lovely work, and understand the message.
Thank you Les and Paul
Quote: as long as you're not English
Elke, I think you might be mixing xenophobia (fear of foreigners) up with racism. "Apparently" we are racist which naturally sickens me to hear beacuse, as wallydaffs says, the irish are spread out right across the globe. Theres probably a touch of xenophobia too I suppose because it has all happened so fast here.
Great work, I enjoyed both the image and the explanation of the reasoning behind it.
Thanks guys, well its 4.55pm and its Friday and the end of the month so I'm off to spend some of my hard earned cash on a nice expensive pint lol.
A very interesting blog--to me --a person from the states with an Irish grandmother-- came here iwth her sibs in the time of troubles-- Much to think about! jenn
Love the image, it has an almost 3D effect, the description was very enlightening,
Excellent work Paul, well done.
The UK lives on 'charities' like in NO other countries, take that away...???????????? And who's paying...????????????? M, (*_*)
Superb photo and sentiments.
Wow... It almost makes me glad that my ancestors left Ireland during the potato famines so long ago.
But this is also happening in California and many other places. In my office of 30 people, only about 8 speak English as a first language, as people are flocking here for the high tech jobs. 500,000 pounds buys you a small shack that has a small back yard, if any at all. And yes, many are consumed with consumerism. But every day I trade stories with people from places like Khazakstan and India. Even the yuppies are fairly friendly and it is a great place for photography.
Do despite the craziness of California and the haphazard policies of my country, it is still a great place to live, as is Ireland.
It is just different now than before and it will never change back.
very interesting description and an excellent and powerful image - very well done
I think your sentiments could be applied to a lot of westernised areas. I agree with every word you and most of the commentators have said. The image is stunning, one of the best I have seen in ages. Thanks for showing it.
Beam me up Scotty...but to where? We sure are in the rat race now and it does get to you. I think it was worse when we had to leave though. Now you have a choice. I hope you got it off your chest and are enjoying that pint now (10:15 p.m.). Great work! John
Sorry for the typo, that sentence should read:
"So, despite the craziness of California and the haphazard policies of my country, it is still a great place to live, as is Ireland."
Its called progress, not going to say if it is right or wrong, it just is, every country that improves on its ability to produce faces the same problem. So, fight the norm and establish the standard, thats the best we can do. Nice shot, I think it depicts your feeling! Spot on! Click!!!
I think it's been said....Just wanted to say, Excellent Interpretation!
Well Done, Paul!
GREAT photo, I liked reading your story too. The problem with Britain (and perhaps Ireland too?) is we follow the Americans too much rather than Europeans. I mean things like junk food.
Hi folks. I really appreciate all who have taken the time to look and comment on this shot. It seems to have pulled a few strings which is great. Just so we're all straight here and no misunderstandings; I love the fact that Ireland had become, or is in the process of becoming, a multi-ethnic society. I love all the different culturea, languages, traditions that have come in here recently. It makes for some very good looking babies too lol. It's that attitude of the Irish I have the problem with lately, My own people. Greed has taken over and thats the sadness of it all. Thanks again. PAul
Oh Dear Paul surely its not that bad!!
I too am half Irish,my Grandfather came over as he was in the police force
and he had to leave.so he came to England with his 14 children my dad being one of them.
regarding you're little epistle on the state of the nation, I like to think that things have evolved this
way, and we can not undo the knowledge that we have learned ,
we have become a sophisticated people and we seem to want
so much more out of life, that is because human beings will keep moving forward even though it may not always look like progress.
Also a little saying I like is (I wondered why some one didn't do something, and then I realised I was some one)
there are still lots of good people around trying to make a good change.
So as Desiderata says no doubt the world is unfolding as it should.
you have certainly got people thinking on this one, well done
thanks for your kind comments
THanks for that Maureen. Progress for progress sake is not always a god thing though. Even if it is evolving/unfolding, greed and materialism don't need to be a part of it.
Thanks again. PAul
photo says it all - great photo and lovely story Paul and its all been said....
MAny thanks Vinny. PAul
Paul genius piece my friend as we suffer the same here state wide. One of the welthiest countries but both my wife and i have to work to pay our mortgage, support our son, and all other expenses where as my father on a much lower salary raised 4 kids 1 car, motgage,and summer getaways and they call it progress. It was said to me once when i went to Portugal where life is a little slower paced was here we work to live where you live to work, shook my head in agreement Paul!
Quote: here we work to live where you live to work,
Well said. Cheers Tony.
A remarkable image which could have been interpreted in a number of ways, but will now be inextricably linked with your wonderful, heartfelt description
A memorable combination of image and words.
Very kind Bill, many thanks. Paul
a fantastic effect well taken with great and relevent words behind it.
Thanks Ian. PAul
All intersting comments I think you find much the same in any western country but as long as week keep our own values we can look in the mirror each morning..Great photo..Judith
A good point Judith, well said, thank you. Paul
Im clicking the shot, in the context of the description.
I can relate to your position Paul. I left Dublin for Canada in 1982, and have lived to experience Ireland becoming much more like North America, than the continent itself.
Im happy to see progress, but I gree its been at a very big expense. A loss of innocence in a way, - but its always the same when progress changes the fundamental culture of a people.
Works well on its own and better with the comments.
After reading the comments, I think we could start a small EPZ revolution!
Many thanks folks. This is one of my own favourites. Willie, I heard a comment by an economist the other day which surprised me at first because he was an economist, he said "We are predicting that Ireland will enjoy approx 3% growth per year over the next 5 years. But why do we need it? (woah, thats what got me). We will need x amount of imigrants to maintain the service and production industries, we will need x amount of new houses and apartments to keep up with demand, but again, what for. We should actually slow down now. Produce quality not quantity. Get to a level we can maintain and not be worrying when the next big crach will tase it all away." Made sense to me.
very wicked interpretation of the title. or vice versa XD..
Many thanks Emma. PAul
A community with wealth demands more, and such avarice inevitably divides its people. A community with poverty will often bond, and support its neighbour in the comfort of commonality. However it also creates unrest as each generation strives for more. Hence your forefathers spread to the new worlds in search of a new life. It's quite phenominal how many Americans proudly claim 2nd and 3rd generation Irish heritage. Perhaps what is happening with the Polish people is no more than yet another repeat of history.
By the way, I think your picture is very expressive and extremely well thought out, but you seem to have stopped the blurring when it came to some of the legs...
Thank you Colin. Good points, well made.
Quote: Perhaps what is happening with the Polish people is no more than yet another repeat of history.
I think your absolutely correct here.
Some of the legs aren't blurred bacause they are standing still.
Sorry, I had thought you'd artistically and expertly used motion blur filters. An assumption of the times I suppose where we're becoming so used to digital enhancements... maybe sacrificing photography for the benefit of image making.
P.S. That should have read 'phenomenal' in my previous...
cool effect and shot well done
Thank you Joe
Great image Paul, took me a while to read the description and all the comments, have to admit I agree with a lot of what you are saying.
personally I don't have a problem with eastern europeans that are over here working because they can better themselves, what I do have an issue with is the number of people who won't get off their backsides to get a job because they only make 20 better off working full time.
What tells me is either the wages are bad or the benefits are too high, I suspect the latter, and while these people sit at home watching daytime TV and producing kids, everyone else is out there working to fund it. No wonder people have to work so hard, the governement takes far too much money from working people to pay for people who have no motivation to work.
I think its a brilliant development in Ireland that we have such diversity of nationalities here Mo. There is also definitely as problem with the poverty trap created by benefits but its a catch 22 situation too where people on low incomes would lose money by going to work. So much for progress eh. Paul
MoWiz... Governments love people like you who let them make scapegoats out of all the people in worse situations then yourself. Rather then look at where the money really goes, it's easy to blame an unfortunate group in any society who for whatever reason can't seem to better themselves.
I'm sure they are all living the highlife on their 56 unemployment a week.
Well said Les. P
Well said Paul and accompanied by a strong image too!!!
Thanks Cary. PAul
Excellent capture...in your idea
Thank you Yud. PAul
Powerfully expressed both in the imagery and the words. I'm a South African with Irish blood in me and am saddened to hear about the decline in the renowned values of the Irish. However, I was there for the first time last year in Dublin and still found things MILES better than London if that is any consolation!
Great image Paul.
Thanks Sean. I still feel life is probably better here than in a lot of countries but, as the expression goes here now we're in a "race to the bottom". PAul
Excellent Paul very touching. I agree Ireland has changed for the worse! In Wexford at the moment we have groups of twelve year old kids robbing houses, of course because of age the police can't do anything about it, so they get of scott free!! It makes me sick! Respect for parents, elderly, education system seems to be all gone out the window. It makes me so angry!!! Regards Tara x
Thanks Oliver, Tara, are you back living in Ireland now?
I heard a quote once that said something like "Young people today have no respect for their elders, they are lazy and have no interest in their education or in whats happening in the world. They are only interested in their own selfish pursuits....etc etc". And it was said by a Greek philosopher 2000 years ago. Paul
Cheers Calex. PAul
Good man!!A touch of philosophical/anthropological colouring i think can sometimes be essential to enhance portrait/social subjects.
Right on Wayne!. PAul
Well all`s been said by better than me,great image,story,and follow on comments.
Many thanks Kim. Paul
The picture says it all - great work.
Cheers Mark. PAul
Firstly paul a magnificent image, but you must know that already.
Your heartfelt ramblings make me sad. I have friends and relatives in Ireland still, my Mother was from Waterford. I spent many many months there, during all my school holidays until I was 17 and have many fond memories. But like Wally daff remember the fact that I was 'half English' as being quiet a problem for relatives. The control of the catholic church in those days was what I remember most and effected my relationship with Ireland and the Irish. Now if what you saw is true, the politicians are now the ones changing your wonderful country.
But sadly I feel the same about England, and find the rapid march of materialism consuming all our lives(excuse the pun)so sad and shocking.
Have just finished reading 'In Gods Name' by David Yallop for the second time.It left me realising that corruption is so widespread in this world I feel the common man doesn't stand a chance...
Well done for making a stand and speaking your mind
Many thanks for your comments Anne.
The church have far less influence and control here these days. At least we have matured somewhat in that respect. We dont accept everything we are told as gospel (excuse my pun) now.
But we dream on and maybe someday we'll put all the corrupt politicians where they belong, in hell, and get on with living in a beautiful country again. Paul
First things first. I loved the image and then when I read your monologue, not only could I relate to what you're saying but the context of the photo becomes unequivocal. I don't pretend to have any answers but for a long time I have felt that my country, England, has been teetering on the brink of some celestial toilet, what with unjust wars, moral decay, bad leadership, a justice system which put the interests of the convicted before those of the victim. . . . you get my point. What I'm trying to convey, is that it's the same the world over so escape is pretty impossible. God!, how depressing!
This is a stunning image Paul and brilliantly executed, well done. I have been to Ireland many times in the past few years and have loved every minute of it. But then I don't live there!
Thank you Simon and Dave. Simon, you probably correct about escape, guess it will have to be a big lotto win and buy an island somewhere lol. Paul
What, you as well? Tee Hee!
As long as its not the same island!
Congratulations are due all round here Paul. Firstly (since it's a photography site) congratulations for a great image - even without the commentary/description, it's a great image. What makes it really special is that along with your words it has sparked such philosophising and debate, which seems to have been your initial intention. Mission accomplished I think
Australia's heading the same way slowly unfortunately - an economist here wrote a book about it a few year's ago called The Growth Fetish. I think I read that 23% of the Australian population are opting for a sea-change - moving out of the cities, the rat race and the quest of ever more expensive material possessions, and choosing lifestyle over high income. I'm one of that 23% )
Anyway, congratulations again.
Many thanks for the comment Nic. I, like yourself, am heading out of the city. Not far though 'cos I still have to work there.
My brother moved to Galway a couple of years ago (see latest upload) opting for quality of life over money. I certainly think he did the right thing.
Great image - message that could just as equally apply to whole of UK I am afraid. Particularly regards risk associated with going into hospitals
It's a sh!tty world we live in and getting worse by the minute. That's why this pastime/obsession etc is so vital.. put's Our world into focus (no pun intended) and helps to remove us from the rat race - suffice to say, most of those high-rise ars-holes are never happy anyway, no matter how much money or possession they have.
Nice work! Regard's, Topol.
Thanks folks. Quote: That's why this pastime/obsession etc is so vital.. put's Our world into focus (no pun intended) and helps to remove us from the rat race
Good point Ray.
I came back to this picture, because a discussion with a friend of mine reminded me of it. I met a friend who is German and currently working in Ireland (that's the first paradox in my opinion), in Dublin to be exact, and he told me that after two years he's really lookig forward to returning home. Since I've got only loving memories of Ireland, I asked him why. One reason was that everybody there is so annoyingly rich... I was dumbstruck. Ireland must have changed a lot in the last eleven years...
Thank you Elke. A compliment that you remembered this during a conversation. Paul
oh super work
Cheers Andy. Paul
Thank you Catharina. Paul
That rant pretty much sums up the North American lifestyle as well... they call it progress, i guess?
love this shot, and a great description to go with it!
A double thank you to all who have given me my first 100 clicks.
Quote: they call it progress, i guess?
We call it "The race to the Bottmo!"
Your picture matches your comment so well..the frustration and anger that no one is listening and we are banging our heads against a brick wall..nessa
Cheers Jase and Nessa. PAul
What an absolutely wonderful image and commentary..It has evoked such a passionate and varied reaction. I can totally empathise with you. I am from Cyprus it has also "enjoyed" enormous economic growth since the 1960s. Up until then it was pretty much a developing country,very few homes had running water or electricity. Yet the people were well known for their kindness and hospitality. Today Cyprus is classified among the high-income countries, and has a standard of living that is even higher than some European Union member-states and the performance of the economy compares favourably with that of most EU countries. Cyprus holds 16th place worldwide in terms of per capita income. Yet i hear the phrase "nice country, shame about the people" on a constant basis! We have become a nation of arrogant, rude materialists with no respect for anything except the power of money. Divorce has risen as have crime levels and the incidents of drug and alcohol abuse. I too believe we were richer when we had nothing.
Thank you for your comment Christina. Much appreciated. Seems people are the same the world over. "The love of money is the root of all evil". Paul
There seem so many good photos I have missed..and at least 4 today that are photolibary quality in execution and subject..this makes 5..superb image.
Thanks Richard, appreciate it. Paul
Never been to Ireland but read some interesting things about it in book called The people of the Secret - a weird book, but interesting nevertheless
I do not know which is best ,the SHOT or the STORY !!!! 50/50 ?? You should write a book,but then again you will pay a lot of tax when it becomes a best seller.........Paul
Fantastic image and commentary.
Thanks again for the feedback guys. Paul
Better late than never. Amazing image and the intro is brill. Fantastic. 12 out of 10.
Thanks again. PAul
Just clicked on this photo and read your comments. A lot of what you say could refer directly to my home country of Norway - well said, all of it!
Thanks Anne. Paul
Good meeting you on saturday. This thread has so many truths in it regarding money riches versus life riches. The richer a country becomes the more arrogant the people.
Vey intersting thread
Cheers Lawrence, good to meet you too. Paul
enjoyed the pic and the comments. Does this have one of the longest threads over time? Just a thought
Cheers Andy, good question, not sure.. Paul
Great photo. and the story behind
Cheers Raad, appreciate it. Paul
Nothing appealed to me this week so I thought I would have a look at some of my favourite shots on epz. So here you are Paul
I know exactly where you are coming from btw.
Thanks for the award Mark. Haven't had a comment on this in a while. Given the current economic situation you could be forgiven for asking now, what was it all for? and was any of it worth it?
superb image - Jonathan
Thanks Jonathan, this goes back a it in the PF.
Paul, yep this is an old one but I came here from a recent comment on the forum(today) and was so impressed with what you said had to see who you were. This image and discription stood out in your pf. Outstanding!!
Have you considered uploading again as a mono, I think it would have even more impact than the colour version.
Cheers Phil. It goes ack a bit alright and actually given the situation in the world these days its worth considering again.
I haven't thought about a BW conversion. not great at converting to BW but might give it a go.
Great image. Great post! Ireland is still a glorious place but I completely know where you're coming from.
Don't know what I could say that has not already been said.Powerful image! Like it alot.
Thanks guys, just noticed your comments today.
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