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Simple picture of the little one at home! Opinions and advice? I am quite keen on maybe doing this as a job so it's important for constructive criticism please not just "it isn't my cup of tea." Thanks!

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D700 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:24.0-70.0 mm f/2.8
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:15 Feb 2012 - 5:58 PM
Focal Length:55mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/2.8
Aperture:f/2.8
Shutter Speed:1/60sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:200, 200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Center-weighted average
Flash:On, Return not detected
Title:Blue eyes
Username:Peter23 Peter23
Uploaded:15 Feb 2012 - 5:42 PM
Tags:Flash / lighting, General, Portraits / people
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baileysmith
15 Feb 2012 - 5:50 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Peter,
Very cute child. For me it's a little too light and may have been better if all the head had been included in the shot??
Just a thought, nice capture of the eyes though.

Matt

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Peter23
Peter23  52 Constructive Critique Points
15 Feb 2012 - 5:54 PM

Yes Matt, when I look at it I think the angle could be better to include the whole of him, so thanks for that!

Peter

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2796 Constructive Critique Points
15 Feb 2012 - 7:55 PM

Hi Peter,


Ive looked through your portfolio, and also your forum topic on votes/views to prepare some useful feedback for this critique.


First off, - its a shot of your own baby, - so whatever anyone thinks, - you like it, - so thats that. It also frustrating when people dont share your own views of your own baby's shot! But thats how it is unfortunately.


If I put that aside, and then look critically at this shot, and ignore the fact that its your own child:

Exposure, - overexposed to the point of having almost no detail. You need some shadows to provide some detail and shaping.


Composition: Poor, and the shot is divided equally between the baby, and the blocks, with which the baby has no interaction and are not needed.


Presentation: Poor, and your logo occupies at least 30% of the image space.


You havent said how this was lit, - so more detail from you would help understand the exposure. Also, you need to let us know your intent, - did you INTEND to overexpose, - were you trying to get a High Key effect?

Google composition, and the use of thirds (or rule of thirds) in an image, and use this as a guide to frame and compose, and also crop in post processing. Theres also likely a technique on the site here that you can search for. If you have Photoshop, you can overlay a third grid on your image to assist with cropping.

Make sure you calibrate white balance for your shot to get skin tones correct, - and shoot in RAW, not JPEG for best results.


I have loaded a mod that has the overexposure addressed; composition; colour balance; but the logo of course stays. You earlier logo was a lot less intrusive. The mod likely doesnt look great, as the original file and pixel size are very small, - but its to show you the concept.

If you need more help with any of the points I have brought up, just send me a PM and I would be happy to assist.

Last Modified By banehawi at 15 Feb 2012 - 7:57 PM

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Peter23  52 Constructive Critique Points
15 Feb 2012 - 10:24 PM

I think the issue with this sort of thing is if it's not your cup of tea your going to dissect it as an art form rather than a representation of the baby. From my baby photos I'v had allot of interest from people wanting me to photograph there children so it is very interesting to see a photographers point of view vs the general public.

There are definitely issues and allot I agree with, compositionally there is room for quite some improvement but I really like the blocks being there. I also agree it's a bit over exposed but not to the point where there is no detail, again just my opinion!

Cheers for advice Smile

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
16 Feb 2012 - 8:23 AM

The logo must go - really shouldn't put such a logo into a critique section.

Now, this is going to seem hard, but based on your comments, it needs saying - bearing in mind this is just my opinion.

The problem with shots like this are that there are two totally different things to look at - the photography and the baby. If it's your baby, or the clients, they will probably like it, but if you, as an aspiring pro, gave me, a reasonably experienced photographer, this as your interpretation of what I wanted, then you wouldn't get paid.

That's just me though. Technically, I really wouldn't go this way at all and I'm with Willie - I'm not keen on the pose, angle and definately not the technique. However, if you go professional, remember, professional doesn't mean any good, it means trying to make a living. I would have, to hand, a portfolio of image types - normal, things like this and so on.

Show that portfolio to the clients BEFORE the session to see what they like - it can save a lot of embaressment later. Thgat goes for portrait and wedding too.

Paul

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banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2796 Constructive Critique Points
16 Feb 2012 - 5:04 PM

My apologies Peter, - I thought I had provided a constructive critique as you had not only asked for, but in the forums also asked why people we not clicking on your photos. As I said, I tried to address BOTH issues. And as a minor point, if you re read my comment on detail, I in fact did not say the image had NO detail as you allude to.

The key to getting better is to take constructive critique as its meant, - not a criticism, but something to think about, consider, try, and see if it can make a difference, even if at the time you dont agree with it. Keep in mind also that monitors vary (is yours calibrated so you see what I see?), and not all web browsers are colour managed, which affect how images are seen on the web.

The wrong way is to take apart the critique because you dont happen to like it. I am on occasion amazed when a photographer pus up a shot for critique when they clearly do not want a critique, they want approval.

I wish you success in your endeavours.


Willie

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Peter23  52 Constructive Critique Points
16 Feb 2012 - 5:59 PM

Hey guys,

Believe me no matter how I come across I always take on board any points even if I agree or not. I'm an open minded kind of person no matter how I may write back. I just like to put my point across too. Sometimes I do find people may be a little harsh or stern but I still take it all on board and think how I can improve so please don't feel I don't like the critique I am given.

I have been offered quite a lot of payed work, it might not be high street studio payed work but hey it's a start. The paying 'public' is a vast world and they can't all afford 'professional' prices. But like I say I do take comments on board to improve my work.

Thanks folks

Peter

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arhab  243 forum posts Indonesia2 Constructive Critique Points
18 Feb 2012 - 1:10 PM

This opinion of a beginner in photography. the cube making divided attention. and I have to tilt my head to the right to see the baby better. Peter, I've seen your portfolio, and is interesting.Wink

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom842 Constructive Critique Points
20 Feb 2012 - 9:47 PM

Just remember, it's not what YOU like, it's what the client wants. Do your thing to show them, but make sure you do what they want too or you will hit flak!

Paul

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