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Sailing down the Ghats at Varanasi I just managed to catch this scene before we'd sailed past too far and the words were obscured by the two men.

This image tested my patience with the processing as I just couldn't produce an image I was happy with. I've produced a few versions - I think this one is the best.

I've uploaded the original and would appreciate any feedback to let me know if I could have done things better.

Thanks for looking

Elaine Grin

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D3100 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:70.0-300.0 mm f/4.0-5.6
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:11 Feb 2013 - 8:32 AM
Focal Length:300mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/5.7
Aperture:f/9.0
Shutter Speed:1/500sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:400
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Auto
Title:Fortunate People
Username:WeeGeordieLass WeeGeordieLass
Uploaded:24 Apr 2013 - 4:03 PM
Tags:Landscape / travel, Portraits / people
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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4204 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom128 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2013 - 4:15 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Interesting image, your processing looks good to me.
The image works well within the context of your presentation, as part of a series on the Ganges and your adventure. On it's own it says less.
I guess the two men are on a boat, or maybe on the river bank. i can't tell. lLeaving me with the words on the wall which are thought provoking in their own right and are really the main message although the men could be considered fortunates.
So as an image it is interesting and thought provoking, therefore another good one.
I'm enjoying you pictures of India, keep them coming,
regards
Ian

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LynneJoyce
LynneJoyce e2 Member 5LynneJoyce vcard United Kingdom96 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2013 - 4:16 PM

Very well worked in V1.

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24 Apr 2013 - 4:26 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Thoughtful, intelligent work in V1. Good work to magic away the third man, though I think I'd have cloned in a hint of hard dark line rather than the softer paler line in the masonry. Maybe also a crop on the left, to concentrate attention on the relationship between the text and the men?
The main thing I'd like to do is to give the two figures a bit more presence, bring them forward in the frame. I think the burn tool would come in handy.
Nice and level in the original, no need for any adjustment there!
Moira

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24 Apr 2013 - 4:40 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

I've uploaded a Mod, based on V1 - well you had done all the spadework... Wink
I haven't done a lot, I cropped a bit at the sides, redid the cloned area - I think it looks more convincing, see what you think. Then I did some dodging and burning on the figure, and burned in the lettering very slightly. I see that Willie has got in with his Mods, will go and check them out.

Last Modified By mrswoolybill at 24 Apr 2013 - 4:41 PM

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banehawi Critique Team 9708 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2670 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2013 - 4:44 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Looking at the original, you have done a very good job.


I took the original, and re worked two mods. Mine look different to yours, as the colour is more intense. This is not done with saturation. Its done by looking at the wall, and the figures as two different images, and post processing each individually. I also cloned out the bottom person by using brickwork from the left side of the image as a source so it appears random.

I use the threshold tool in Photoshop CS to identify the start of black on the wall, which is top of the L in people, and the start of white, which is "elbow" on the white paint upper left. Setting these two points gives a very good contrast and colour to the wall. The mean are treated differently, and mainly its lifting shadows on the faces.

V2 is cropped at the top, and has added space on the right.


So well done. Try either or, a contrast increase, or a sat increase ( just a little, as sat alone will not produce vibrancy)



Hope this helps,



Regards



Willie

Last Modified By banehawi at 24 Apr 2013 - 4:45 PM

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derrymaine
24 Apr 2013 - 5:08 PM

Love the first version, awesome shot Wink

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WeeGeordieLass
WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
24 Apr 2013 - 6:26 PM

Hi Ian,

Thanks for your critique. I feel the words convey the importance of the Holy River Ganges in the lives of Hindu people, and I was lucky that, as we passed by, the two men were stood in a great spot for me to get a good shot and give more emphasis to the message on the wall.

I'm glad you're enjoying my uploads Grin

Cheers

Elaine. Smile

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
24 Apr 2013 - 6:29 PM

Hi Lynne,

Thanks for taking the time to comment and your positive critique.

Cheers

Elaine Smile

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
24 Apr 2013 - 6:40 PM

Hi Moira,

The mods great. Agree totally about my cloning - I need a lot more practice in that particular skill.

The dodging and burning is an improvement too. Thank goodness the horizontals were level lol Grin

Thanks for all the tips to help me improve Moira.

Cheers

Elaine Grin

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WeeGeordieLass
WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
24 Apr 2013 - 6:51 PM

Hi Willie,

Thanks for the mods. I like the v2 crop.

I'll experiment with the contrast/sat increase (just a little) as you suggest.

Thanks for all your help.

Elaine Smile

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
24 Apr 2013 - 6:54 PM

Yia Sou Eleftheria,

Thanks for taking the time to look at my shot and your nice comment.

Cheers

Elaine Smile

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NDODS e2 Member 32335 forum postsNDODS vcard United Kingdom96 Constructive Critique Points
24 Apr 2013 - 7:33 PM

A very pleasing image which has had both great feedback and fitting modifications

Regards Nathan GrinGrinGrin

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WeeGeordieLass
WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
24 Apr 2013 - 7:39 PM

Glad you like it Nathan Smile I agree the feedback and mods are great.

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