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another go at Photoshop,
my objective was to remove the background and isolate the subject with a black background, i used quick layer mask and traced around the subject ie tiger and painted in the back ground which was fine, then i made new layer and messed around with opacity and blend modes, in this case i chose multiply which i thought bought the image colours to life ,but i had lost all the detail in the whiskers on the left hand side of the tigers face messed around a bit more but just could not get there, also as it was pointed out in my last tiger upload it sill looked a bit on the dark side.

iv uploaded the original shot v2 so any mods, help or advice much appreciated
steve

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 400D
Lens:EF-S18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:14 Jul 2011 - 10:09 AM
Focal Length:200mm
Aperture:f/6.3
Shutter Speed:1/100sec
Exposure Comp:-2/3
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Program AE
Metering Mode:Partial
Flash:Off, Did not fire
Title:tiger 2
Username:STEVELIN STEVELIN
Uploaded:25 Feb 2012 - 7:04 PM
Tags:Digitally manipulated
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SUE118
SUE118 e2 Member 6SUE118 vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2012 - 7:54 PM

He's a gorgeous hunk.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2803 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2012 - 8:09 PM

Did you get the mod I sent you Steve?


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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2803 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2012 - 8:58 PM

V1 is too dark, similar to the last upload, - which is in fact a better pose for the Tiger.

Looking at the original, you are trying to darken the background, and perhaps (a guess) this is also causing the darkening of the Tiger itself. The crop is good, - however, if you have another opportunity, use portrait move for best results.

The original is not completely sharp; its underexposed, and it had a greenish colour cast (wire fence perhaps).

So start with the original, and address the issues above, and then tackle the background.

I have some techniques that can work to minimize them. Its not actually too bad as it is. I usually, desaturate, and blur, before I try darkening; I would remove the part if the metal support above the head and the verticals joins in the fence, - anything that draws the eye.

At 200mm and with IS, - unless you are using a solid support, the speed might be just a little too slow for a good sharp shot, you need to take into account that there may ne tiny movement in the whiskers due to either a breeze, or slight movements by the animal itself.

Ive loaded a mod as an example, and I will send you some other information separately. It will help to know what image editor you have, - if its Photoshop, which version?



Regards



Willie

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thatmanbrian
25 Feb 2012 - 9:08 PM

I actually rather like the darker image. It gives the fur a luxurious, plush look. (Which might also be down to a little unsharpness?) But if you keep it dark, bring out the eyes a little (dodge). Willie's mod is technically correct but now the lion looks like any zoo photo!

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2803 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2012 - 10:12 PM

Tiger!

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thatmanbrian
25 Feb 2012 - 10:43 PM

Ooops, my brain photoshopped it!!Tongue

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f8
f8  109169 forum posts England22 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2012 - 1:18 AM

Made a mod Steve, needed a little brightening and contrast, also it was a little unsharp, 100th sec is not fast enough for that focal length lens, otherwise its a good pic and reminder of your visit.

Last Modified By f8 at 26 Feb 2012 - 1:23 AM

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CarolG
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26 Feb 2012 - 6:24 AM

I love the softness of V.1, Steve. Carol

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CathR
CathR  7139 forum posts United Kingdom563 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2012 - 5:21 PM

You have to have endless patience Steve to do the blending really well especially where you are using a black background and a much lighter subject Wink you have done a reasonable job here but the hard bits are the whiskers and the hair coming out of the tiger's ears. Zoom in so you are working with a very small brush, maybe even just one pixel and keep on going back and forwards with painting on the layer mask until you are satisfied. You can always get creative which means that you black out the area and then paint your own whiskers. I would use a graphics tablet rather than a mouse but I know lots of people can't get on with them.

Good luck

Catherine

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STEVELIN
STEVELIN  6155 forum posts Ireland3 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2012 - 7:38 PM

thanks everyone for taking time to comment much appreciated .
steve

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paulbroad
paulbroad  681 forum posts United Kingdom843 Constructive Critique Points
27 Feb 2012 - 7:47 PM

Willie covers it. V1 is an excellent effort, but you have darkened the Tiger too - it is far brighter in V2. Your intention is well conceived and achieved otherwise. I would crop the top and right a bit more still, but these shots always have that added zing with eye contact.

paul

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Lamby2
Lamby2  2 Australia
28 Feb 2012 - 2:15 AM

Tried to add a little more life and detail but couldn't seem to up load your picture and get it large enough to work on. Can someone tell me what I did wrong or what I should have done. David Lamb. Australia.

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