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Hi. Here's the first of my images taken last night. We were unlucky as the clouds dispersed leaving us with just the little ones above the horizon.

The Moonlight has placed some highlights on the fence and reeds which I think on the balance of things help the shot.

Camera:Canon EOS 40D
Lens:EF-S 10-22mm
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Knapps Loch
Username:Tony_Baloni Tony_Baloni
Uploaded:21 Apr 2008 - 2:11 PM
Tags:Knapps, Landscape / travel, Sunset
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pennyspike
pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 2:18 PM

I like your viewpoint here and the reflected colours from the sky.
Penny

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Buffalo_Tom
Buffalo_Tom e2 Member 82322 forum postsBuffalo_Tom vcard Wales9 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 2:26 PM

Lovely light and colour Tony.
Excellent shot.
Tom.

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rodborough_bear

Great photo

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Gary_Macleod
21 Apr 2008 - 2:44 PM

beautiful..love the silhouettes

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Douglas_George
21 Apr 2008 - 2:51 PM

Nice capture Tony, well done.

Dougie.

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Richsr
Richsr e2 Member 790 forum postsRichsr vcard England209 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 3:45 PM

like the lighting and the colours in this Tony - well captured.
Regards Richard.

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Bluke
Bluke  9303 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 3:52 PM

Good silhouette, clouds...
Barb

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NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 3:56 PM

loveley colours and exposure, i wonder if a tiny btm crop would be even better?
Phil

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timsmith
timsmith  9 England
21 Apr 2008 - 3:56 PM

Wow, beautiful shot
Tim

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uggyy
uggyy  82104 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 5:08 PM

Tony I got to be honest, its not sharp (either wind movement or not in focus) in the FG and just feels brutal on the HDR....if it was?

Can see a lot of digital noise near the barb wire, which Im not sure about too..


Tommy

Last Modified By uggyy at 21 Apr 2008 - 5:11 PM

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ZInaNMooner
21 Apr 2008 - 7:58 PM

Beautiful shot. Great colors and composition.

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Tony_Baloni
21 Apr 2008 - 8:36 PM


Quote: Tony I got to be honest, its not sharp (either wind movement or not in focus) in the FG and just feels brutal on the HDR....if it was?

Can see a lot of digital noise near the barb wire, which Im not sure about too..


Tommy

Right Tommy... since you've brought this up...

Your guess was right. Last night was very breezy which shows in the shot as a milky mist on the water due to the long exposure. It was like the sea side the way the ripples were nearly waves.

As virtually every element within the shot (Fence, Water Surface, Trees, and Sky) are capable of moving in the wind I have to accept a certain amount of softness in the image. That and using the "Hyperfocal Distance" of the lens is never going to look as sharp as a lens correctly focused upon an object.

As for the "brutal" HDR...! You of all folk should know that sometimes it's better going for effect than being true to the conditions at the time.

It was my "choice" to remove only some of the HDR Halo surrounding the fence (as in my mind it looked like the moonlight was playing a part in the shot) and also play with the Hues.

Yes, it's soft, has noise that Neat Image missed and is boosted for effect but I was frozen to the bone getting it so this and two others will be uploaded... warts and all.

Tony...

Last Modified By Tony_Baloni at 21 Apr 2008 - 8:41 PM

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uggyy
uggyy  82104 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 9:26 PM

Effect I dont mind and its got impact but where did you focus? And yes I know about brutal lol but for me to say its brutal well.... Wink

The fence looks soft... Thats my main concern, if the wind was moving this as you said then understood.

As for the haloing, try putting the micro smoothing way up, with an image like this it will help smooth it down a lot. Also try duplicating the layer and burning down the hallow. It can work as well...

Laters, Tommy

Last Modified By uggyy at 21 Apr 2008 - 9:27 PM

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Boagman65  7 Scotland1 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 10:19 PM

Now Now boys !! Calm down It's better than the stuff I come away with when I go to Knapps. If it's not thick fog or grey clag then it's cows falling in and scaring the life out of you. So Tony if I had a sky like this at Knapps just once I would be well chuffed V2 does it for me by the way.

Andy.

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uggyy
uggyy  82104 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 10:24 PM

bahh we not fighting, Tonys said worse to me when I needed it Wink

been some cracking sunsets but alas the night I could make anything of it I was stuck in :-(

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Paul_cats e2 Member 861 forum postsPaul_cats vcard Scotland22 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 11:13 PM

Seems I picked a controversial shot to catch up with your pf Tony. LOL To me it seems like a very good effort under the breezy conditions. Some of the comments maybe true but it is still a very pleasing image. Its all a learning curve. What is HDR anyway? LOL Just kidding. As long as you like it thats all that matters.
Paul

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pennyspike
pennyspike  112068 forum posts United Kingdom29 Constructive Critique Points
21 Apr 2008 - 11:24 PM

I read this as a very interesting and useful discussion from which I learnt a thing or too. I for one would like to see much more of it on the site.
I often vote for a picture that has faults because the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. It's very refreshing to see people who are prepared to be honest and share it with the rest of us. Thank you both.
Penny

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pink  111612 forum posts United Kingdom5 Constructive Critique Points
22 Apr 2008 - 7:40 AM

this works really well

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pmaclll  8 Scotland
22 Apr 2008 - 10:12 AM

like the water effect "sandgrouse" had a sikilar shot well I think it was him with a faster shutter, prefer this better

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