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I have put this up today after taking part in a forum yesterday regarding photographing children and people being wrongly classes as a devients, I do not wish to restart the topic, but as my children mean so much to me, I wonder if these people have any idea of the pain they cause.

If I am asked to remove this, I will, as I have no wish to upset anybodySmile

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old timer
old timer  1055 forum posts Scotland1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 11:03 AM

Like it, Tony.
Jim

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mikenewton
mikenewton  10
4 Aug 2004 - 11:07 AM

Great images ... thought provoking!

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himalk
himalk  10 Sri Lanka
4 Aug 2004 - 11:09 AM

So beautifull...

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saveme
saveme  10115 forum posts
4 Aug 2004 - 11:10 AM

Powerful image Tony. Plus, I am 100% behind having writing on images at the minute (even if I take flak from certain quarters). Great stuff.

Phil

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Mixpix
Mixpix  101058 forum posts England
4 Aug 2004 - 11:17 AM

I dont see anything wrong with it so leave it there. Nice shot too. click

Mick

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lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014057 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 11:20 AM

Works well - nice work. The left image and text work well on their own as well. click.

Chris

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sugarbird
sugarbird  10223 forum posts South Africa
4 Aug 2004 - 11:31 AM

Most people dont care about the pain they cause, its a selfish world, one thing I have learned in life is to be non-judgemental, didn't se the forum but I get the drift, do NOT remove it, all these shots just show your parental love...respect to you
lol
Jill

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answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012551 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 11:36 AM

Speechless. K-Award. K.

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mipettin
mipettin  10884 forum posts Scotland2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 11:57 AM

Great images by themselves, Double click if I could, Martin

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Firebaby
Firebaby  101204 forum posts Faroe Islands
4 Aug 2004 - 12:08 PM

Leave it here Tony.

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geo
geo  1046 forum posts France
4 Aug 2004 - 12:22 PM

This is so good! The expression, the soft tones and skin type. Great image!
George

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sze4j
sze4j  1056 forum posts Singapore
4 Aug 2004 - 12:40 PM

This is tops....two very good portrait shots put together into a potential campaign poster...

3 big clicks! =)

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billma
billma  10119 forum posts United States
4 Aug 2004 - 12:53 PM

Beautiful shot. Birds are the flowers of the animal world, butterflies are the flowers of the insect world, children are the flowers of the human world. They should be cherished and protected.

Bill

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ukuwi
ukuwi  10476 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 12:58 PM

Nicely said Bill, and many many thanks to you all for your comments, I really was in two minds, whether to post this or not, didnt want to bring the day down, respect to you allSmile

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digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 1:01 PM

Amazing image Tony, the contrasting expressions between the 2 children says it all.

Ian

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creative_sara
4 Aug 2004 - 1:04 PM

between your picture and Bill's comment it is completly summed up.

Child are so precious I didn't realise quite how much until I had my own.

Sara

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gajj
gajj  1032 forum posts
4 Aug 2004 - 1:13 PM

Beautiful image and one of the most effective poster-type pictures I've seen on this site...poignant reminder of how precious the children of the world are...very well done. Thanks for doing it!
Regards,
Jan

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UserHasLeft
4 Aug 2004 - 1:42 PM

Good work, mate - impressive image. Don't you dare take it down.

Just read the thread...had to seriously avoid my keyboard for 10 minutes.

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eafy
eafy  10 Australia
4 Aug 2004 - 1:44 PM

Nice work Tony. Its a pity about the "real deviants" in the world, thanks to them, people always jump to the worst possible conclusion rather than a possitive one. I love my daughter and photograph her regularly and its obvious to me you're the same way.
Click

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stevieb
stevieb  102994 forum posts Panama2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 1:47 PM

A well put statement Tony. Superb image.
Click.
Steve

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ukuwi
ukuwi  10476 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 2:07 PM

Thanks again everyone, its the most painfull subject in the world, yet we have to live in fear of it everyday, I know I have become overprotective as a result of it, only to be made worse by the media, so now we all feel guilty. my apologies for using this site as a sounding boardSmile

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funkeldink
funkeldink  101592 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 2:35 PM

i was going to write some hilariously funny and sarcy comment -- but i daren't in case of a backlash --

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funkeldink  101592 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 2:36 PM

it is incredibly poignant tony and respect dude for putting this up -- wonderful job --

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funkeldink
funkeldink  101592 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 2:38 PM

ooohhhh -- i want a laugh -- and this is too serious

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ukuwi
ukuwi  10476 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 2:39 PM

THEN GO AND HAVE A LOOK AT THE COMMENT I LEFT ON THE MIDWEEK CAPTION COMP.

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Ade_Osman e2 Member 114484 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 4:40 PM

Kids eh!....who'd have em?.....Great piece of work.....Click
Ade

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magda_indigo
4 Aug 2004 - 6:30 PM

I SURE WOULD, MY SONS HAVE BEEN WARNED, IF EVER I NOTICE ANYTHING NOT RIGHT ABOUT MY GRANDCHILDREN I GO STRAIGHT TO THE POLICE.
I'M NOT ASHAMED(NOW) TO SAY THAT I WAS A BATTERED AND... CHILD. BEING A SURVIVOR, I'M LONG OVER THE ANGER TOWARDS MY PARENTS- NOW DECEASED- BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I FOUND OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT IT, WHERE I THOUGHT NOBODY DID. THAT'S WHEN I REALLY GOT FURIOUS, THEY HAD LET IT HAPPEN, BECAUSE MY PARENTS WERE PILLARS OF THE COMUNITY ETC. I HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR THEM, LOST 'FRIENDS' GLADLY.
THANX TONY, BUT LET'S TRY AND KEEP THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE, BE CAREFUL BUT NOT SCARED OTHERWISE 'THEY' WIN, DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN. I WANT TO BE THE WINNER HERE.CLICK (*:*)

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geegee
geegee  1029 forum posts England
4 Aug 2004 - 7:12 PM

I really cannot understand how over protective the do-gooders will try to be. It seems that they wish to classify everyone as a deviant in some form or other. Parents will end up with no record of their children growing up, and those same children will have no record of their childhood. I treasure shots taken of me in my so called formative years, they link me to my parents and grandparents, long since gone. They are treasured memories, all I have to remind me of loved ones who are no longer with me.

Sorry, I would just like to say that this is a lovely image, preserve it at all costs.

Sorry, have had second thoughts, yes there are some horrible b******s around and we must be on our guard, but don't let's go over the top.

Click.

George.

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lovelylindax
4 Aug 2004 - 8:19 PM

Very powerful!
Linda x

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ukuwi
ukuwi  10476 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 9:42 PM

Magda, firstly I will apologise for resurecting bad memories, and I am pleased to hear that you are a survivor, it is also a sad fact that more often than not, its those who are closest to you, that misuse your trust, it still remains beyond my comprehension and understanding how anybody can know and do nothing.

George, I believe that the do-gooders are a result of society's need for a tragedy.

you are right that everything needs to be put into perspective and not blown out of proportion, but at what point is your child safe, as you will never know the underlying intentions of a stranger, and if any childs saftey is in question, then I will be the first person to stand up and object.

one of the points that I made in the forum was that my advice would be, to only photograph your own children, and the ones you are paid to do so, by the parents.

Respect to you allSmile

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vfr400
vfr400  12886 forum posts
4 Aug 2004 - 10:51 PM

A very powerful image, superb portraits beautifully put together.
chris

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Badger  114736 forum posts United Kingdom20 Constructive Critique Points
4 Aug 2004 - 11:25 PM

It has a lot of power. No further comment to be made.
Matt

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VICTORHABBICK
5 Aug 2004 - 10:08 AM

Tony, if it feels right stick with it. Beautiful shot text and all.
You would not believe the extent I have to go to to eliminate children from commercial shoots as i do a lot of work for building companies in and around new school constructions. Even the building company mangers are requesting all children be removed. Now does a new playground or kids play area not look better photographically when been used. Political correctness has got totally out of hand and does not help anyone with this sad situation.
Regards, Victor

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magda_indigo
5 Aug 2004 - 12:09 PM

Tony, I'm not after sympathy, don't let anybody feel sorry for me, I'm proud of my achievment, was my own therapist, had the inner strength. AND it has me the person that I am, who knows what a witch I would have turned out to be? HIHIHI.
No need to apologise, it never 'leaves' you, YOU LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT or should that be WITHOUT?
I am a HAPPY lady. THANX (*:*)

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geegee
geegee  1029 forum posts England
5 Aug 2004 - 12:09 PM

I'm with you all the way Tony, my point was that there seems to be an attempt to remove all responsibility and authority from parents and put it into the hands of some bureaucratic authority. The kids are the ones who suffer.
George.

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ukuwi
ukuwi  10476 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2004 - 12:36 PM

Victor, you are of course correct, what good is a playground without the children is like a camera with film or memory card, polictal correctness has a lot to answer for in all manner of things, we have a government that is scared of puting a foot out of line for fear of losing its power and a public that has been worked up in to a frenzy in certain cases, we will never win, we have but two options, we either shut up and grin and bare it, and watch society self destruct, or leave the country, and all there crap behind.

Magda, I know you are a happy lady, it has become obvious to me over the last few months of enjoying your work, your inner strength has probally just made you stronger, but alas, this is not the case for everyone, for some its a weight too heavy to carry.

George, It does seem to be getting that way, even the schools want me to ask there permission to take my children on holiday during term time, I have already told them that I will inform them of holiday dates, but at no point will I ever ask for there permission, just who do they think they are?

I am very much still the rebel when it comes to any kind of authority, I just cannot stand being told what to do, my mum was the same. guess it must be in the genes.

My heartfelt thanks goes out to all of you who have taken the time and trouble to comment here, long may we reignSmile

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magda_indigo
5 Aug 2004 - 1:06 PM

THANK YOU TONY, MAGDA.

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paul_indigo
5 Aug 2004 - 1:26 PM

I think this is brilliantly done.

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tull
tull  11181 forum posts United Kingdom
5 Aug 2004 - 6:28 PM

Superb Tony,really makes you think mate.

Best wishes.

Mark.

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Mavis
Mavis e2 Member 12143 forum postsMavis vcard England2 Constructive Critique Points
8 Aug 2004 - 5:56 AM

ALL children are precious . They all need more time with us and lots of love . Your photo shows the happiness of your children Tony . Very beautiful . It irks me that we cannot take pictures of happy children at play without being looked upon as a would be pervert . All because of some Filthy B*****s who have scared us all half to death . Keep this one on it is beautiful . Home on Tuesday .

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hurstwood
hurstwood  936 forum posts
11 Aug 2004 - 9:38 AM

Tony, the shot and the comments have 'blown me away' It proves that the world can still be a happy, loving and very caring world.
Power to the People !
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Alan

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Daisy_intheMill
11 Aug 2004 - 9:39 PM

Gosh, what an emotive subject. Absolutely know where your coming from. It's a regular thought of mine if others question my interest in photos of children but like you, (I assume from your work)they just mean the world to me. I just wish I wasn't ingrained to question as such. I wish to capture their innocence as they find the world and enjoy it. The answer to your question is - beyond all doubt.

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a11sus
a11sus  10568 forum posts Northern Ireland
11 Aug 2004 - 10:43 PM

I love the two images here.

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