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The Monastery of Panagia Spiliani is one of the oldest places of worship on the island of Nisyros. It is located in the capital village of Mandraki. The name, Panagia Spiliani, means Virgin Mary of the Cave.

I used a circular polariser to deepen the colour of the sky, and I like how the white bell tower stands out against the blue.

I'd appreciate feedback on this shot, and any ideas on how I could have improved the composition.

Brand:NIKON CORPORATION
Camera:Nikon D3100 Check out Nikon Nation!
Lens:18.0-55.0 mm f/3.5-5.6
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Date Taken:18 Sep 2012 - 10:24 AM
Focal Length:18mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/3.5
Aperture:f/13.0
Shutter Speed:1/80sec
Exposure Comp:0.0
ISO:200
Exposure Mode:Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:No Flash
White Balance:Daylight
Title:Panagia Spiliani
Username:WeeGeordieLass WeeGeordieLass
Uploaded:12 Oct 2012 - 9:32 PM
Tags:Architecture, General, Landscape / travel
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paskinmj
paskinmj  5 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
12 Oct 2012 - 9:46 PM

Good spot. Could do with a slightly tighter crop and a little less processing. I feel theres too much noise in the sky. Hope you find this constructive?

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 3386 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
12 Oct 2012 - 9:55 PM

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for taking the time to comment and yes, I do find your comments helpful and constructive.

I think you're right about the sky and I'll tone it down in the final version of the image. Thanks for your help on the cropping too.

Cheers - much appreciated.

Elaine

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HarrietH
HarrietH e2 Member 4269 forum postsHarrietH vcard Portugal
12 Oct 2012 - 9:57 PM

What a delightfully sharp shot of a very interesting subject.

Harriet

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 3386 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
12 Oct 2012 - 10:02 PM

Thanks Harriet,

Nisyros is a beautiful island and this monastery was gorgeous. It was fabulous inside but photos weren't allowed.

It's nice of you to comment, and very encouraging for me.

Cheers

Elaine

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pablophotographer e2 Member 3496 forum postspablophotographer vcard 188 Constructive Critique Points
12 Oct 2012 - 10:28 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hello Elaine.

It was good of you to use the polariser and make the blue of the sky more deep so it contrasts with the white surfaces. I suspect the colour of the other flag (the Byzantine two headed eagle, symbol of the Patriarchy) was yellow but it has come out as orange, never mind, not many people know the true colours. Shooting flags can be time consuming, you have to wait until they appear unfolded and I don't know how much time available you had left, so there is no reason to comment it further.

Some people tend to see pictures as zones of almost straight lines vertical or horizontal (that's how the rule of thirds appeared as a concept). Fewer photographers can recognise and see triangles with lines going from one top corner to the opposite bottom corner. Your picture has two big colour elements (blue on the left and white on the right). To balance these two superficial triangles, a square cropping (that leaves out the three bottom steps, without changing your leading lines towards the monastery entrance) would offer a better balance to the picture. The grey of the shadow is minimised and you are left with white and blue, mostly) These are the Greek national colours, isn't that appropriate to your picture?

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10988 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2984 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2012 - 4:02 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

It a nice shot Elaine. Nice exposure and good sky colour.

Colour/white balance is a little too cool, - its obviously sunny, so it needs to be a little warmer, which might also help pablos flag.


I would crop it into a 10 X 8 format, - square removes too many steps for me.

there is of course some lens distortion, - Ive removed barrel distortion, and the leaning verticals are fine with this shot.

I do fint that the steps are levele, but the Church is not, - perhaps a lens thing, but its not very noticeable. Removed noise in the sky. Im surprised you have noise at ISO 200, unless you have cropped this a lot?

Perhaps nice to see more of the person at the side?


All changes as suggested uploaded in the mod. Shooting in RAW, though needing more post processing, will allow you to change White Balance if it appears to be off.



Regards


Willie

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Focus_Man  4481 forum posts United Kingdom631 Constructive Critique Points
13 Oct 2012 - 10:46 AMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Corrected verticals are very much subjective, in this case, my personal preference would be to see the left hand wall vertical. For that reason I have uploaded a mod where I have done just that so that you can see the difference.

A super picture of an interesting building.

Frank

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 3386 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
14 Oct 2012 - 7:31 PM

Hi Pablo,

Thanks for your comments.

I can't remember what colour the flag was - yes, it's a shame that it isn't fully unfurled - never mind.

Thanks for showing me the triangular element of the photo - I totally get what you're saying about the blue and white triangles...............what a great tip, this is not something I had considered before.

Take care and thanks for your help.

Cheers

Elaine

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 3386 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
14 Oct 2012 - 7:37 PM

Hi Willie,

The mods are great. Thanks for the tip about warming the image up a bit. I've a few shots with similhahar colours so I'll bear in mind your advice.

Yes I think there's distortion due to the wide angle lens.

The guy at the top looks better now he's been lightened up a bit. I considered cloning him out but decided to leave him in as he didn't detract from the building.

Thanks for all your great help.

Cheers

Elaine

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 3386 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
14 Oct 2012 - 7:39 PM

Hi Frank,

Thanks very much for the mod.

I thought the leaning wall looked ok, but now that I've seen your mod with the vertical corrected I think your version looks much better.

Glad you like the shot.

Thanks for your support.

Cheers

Elaine

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pablophotographer e2 Member 3496 forum postspablophotographer vcard 188 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2012 - 6:17 PM

happy to have helped Elaine, enjoy your holiday!

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom880 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2012 - 7:54 PM

I rather think you did quite well in the fitst place. Mods are good but different images from the same file. Might have selected the sky and burred it, then darkened it even more to give a very deep blue. Even more impact then.

Paul

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16 Oct 2012 - 7:48 PM

Hi Paul,

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

What great tips for the sky. I'll give it a go.

Thanks for your support.

Elaine

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16 Oct 2012 - 7:50 PM

Hey Willie,

Your mod 3 is spot on.

The crop is great and I think it gives the main building more impact.

This is how I hope to present the final image.

Thanks for the ideas, tips, support and also your time.

Cheers

Elaine

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