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I'd be grateful for any opinions on this shot.

I'm in a quandry as to which is the best crop. I've uploaded a Mod showing another view (Letter Box Crop).

In v1 I've included the sky because I thought it was quite nice. I brushed the burn tool over to give more drama in the clouds. I've kept the horizon on the bottom third. I wonder though if the people and dog look a bit small or is this ok as the sky is the main subject?

In v2 I've cropped and put the horizon on the top third - this, I think, makes the people and the dog the subject of the pic.

This was taken on what is fast becoming my favourite little stretch of beach in this area at St. Anne's, and I'm pleased I managed to get a silhouette type image without the dreaded blown out glare from the sun.

I've had some fantastic advice from loads of very helpful people, and I hope you think that I have listened and learned.

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Camera:Nikon D3100 Check out Nikon Nation!
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:19 Feb 2012 - 1:05 PM
Focal Length:55mm
Lens Max Aperture:f/5.7
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ISO:200
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Title:Taking the Dog for a Walk
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Uploaded:19 Feb 2012 - 3:13 PM
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mhfore
mhfore  7 England176 Constructive Critique Points
19 Feb 2012 - 3:48 PM

Hi Elaine,

Here's something for you to think about. I've gone for the "inbetween", same size, less sky but bigger silhouettes.

Take care

Martin

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
19 Feb 2012 - 4:00 PM

Oh yes Martin, the best of both worlds.

The silhouetttes look a more natural size and the best detailed part of the sky is incuded - like it!

Please could you let me know how you did it. Was it just a crop or did you re-size/stretch the image?

Thanks for your help.

Elaine

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banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2799 Constructive Critique Points
19 Feb 2012 - 5:04 PM

This is quite a nice scene. I also like you letterbox mod.


Stretching the image vertically is not the best approach as it distorts the proportions of the people and the dog, making them appear much too tall and thin.

First think perhaps is to crop to place the horizon on a third. Next, the people are a little too close to the left to make it a really good composition, to cropping space from the right helps, but you really need to add some canvas size to the left to get them on a third, and then fill the empty canvas with background. This is easier to do with CS4 or CS5, otherwise you really have to copy and paste, and a little cloning.


Ive loaded a few mods, - all with this done, - and with added contrast and sharpening.



Hope this is helpful,



regards



Willie

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mhfore  7 England176 Constructive Critique Points
19 Feb 2012 - 6:37 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Elaine,

A little bit of both re-sizing and adding more canvas to the base. What Willie said is correct about stretching the image but in this instant as you thought the silhouettes were a touch small then this was exceptable on a 600 x 400 image, I would be very careful if you are going to apply this to your origanal, it can be done but not to much. I cropped the sky down to an interesting area and then added more canvas to the base and used content aware to fill. If you look at the beach at the base you can see how it's very similar to the area just below their feet. If you don't have contant aware this can be done by copy > paste > free transform.

Elaine, while you will get all the advice about photoshop/cs3,4,5 on here this is not the best way to learn. The best way by far is to go to youtube, do a search for what it is you want to acheive and follow the tutorials you can then pause, do the adjustment to your image and then carry on or go back and repeat as many times as you like.

Hope this helps.

Martin

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
19 Feb 2012 - 7:22 PM

Hi Roger,

Thanks for the Mod.

I like your version of the sky. I held back a bit with the burn tool on this one but I can see there are times when a darker sky can work, so thanks for this.

Since you introduced me to borders in your last mod I had a go with my last upload. I managed ok, I really like this white and black border.

Thanks for spending time to help me.

Cheers

Elaine

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
19 Feb 2012 - 7:35 PM

Hi Willie,

Thanks for your Mods. The image looks a lot better with canvas added to the left. It's funny how I think a composition looks ok, then when I'm shown an improvement I have an "ah-ha" moment - so thanks to you, and everyone who has advised me on EPZ for lots of "ah-ha" moments lately!

I like the mono version too.

Much appreciated

Elaine

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
19 Feb 2012 - 7:45 PM

Hi Martin,

Thanks for taking the time to come back to me, and the hints and tips on stretching an image.

I'll practice with the Free Transform tool this looks very useful, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

I was very interested to learn about the youtube tutorials - I hadn't thought about this route for learning Photoshop, I think this is great advice and will follow it up 100%.

Thanks again

Elaine

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Jestertheclown
19 Feb 2012 - 8:36 PM

Hi Elaine,

Not much I can add to all of that.

If it's YouTube type video tutorials you're after, as Martin says, there are plenty available and there are also video tutorials on Epz. Look beneath the "Techniques button" at the top.

Bren.

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2338 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
19 Feb 2012 - 8:44 PM

H Bren,

Didn't realise there were video tutorials on EPZ - this site is amazin' - thanks for the tip.

Hope your Photo 366 project is going well. The weather is getting better now, so hopefully it'll be a bit more pleasant scouting for subjects.

Enjoy

Elaine

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10781 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2799 Constructive Critique Points
19 Feb 2012 - 10:27 PM

Theyre on EPZ TV Elaine.



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