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Can't do much photography at the moment so have had to resort to a scan of one of my old slides taken years ago.

I always liked this shot - haven't done much with it in Elements - sharpened a bit, bit of burn tool, adjusted levels a bit.

I'd be grateful for your opinions.

Also you might find this interesting:
Have you seen the new "YIN YANG GROUP" - it's a great way to get positive and constructive feedback on your photos - take a look here http://www.ephotozine.com/groups/yin-yang-790 and feel free to join in. We're all learning loads, it'd be a shame to miss out!

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Camera:Konica Minolta Dynax 7D
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Title:The Hidden Footbridge
Username:WeeGeordieLass WeeGeordieLass
Uploaded:22 Feb 2012 - 1:04 PM
Tags:Landscape / travel
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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10845 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2836 Constructive Critique Points
22 Feb 2012 - 3:40 PM

Hi Elaine.

The purpose of the Yin Yang group is to refine your shot before you submit it to the general gallery, or the critique gallery.


This image though is a exercise in green, both for the eyes, and for the monitor! It is very much over saturated. If you look at that fern, right of centre at the bottom, you can see its essentially a green blob with no detail at all.


I wonder about exif data, - theres none, and the camera type being right, the reference to Fuji is incorrect, - might be a site issue.


Anyway, you need to tone down that green. I tried in a mod, but to be honest, not very successfully.


The idea is a good one. Try getting closer to the bridge, and eliminate as much as you can of the bright fields in the distance.


regards


Willie

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WeeGeordieLass
WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2339 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
22 Feb 2012 - 4:10 PM

Hi Willie,

I suspected it might be too green!

I did notice the blur of that fern, but thought it was due to movement from the breeze. I must have used a slow shutter speed at the time as the water is blurred, and there seems to be movement in other leaves/foliage too.

I'll bear your advice in mind re: getting in closer to the bridge the next time I am presented with a scene like this.

Sorry about the reference to the Yin Yang Group - this is a discussion I had with Ade a few days ago.............have I misunderstood what he meant? - I didn't think images should be uploaded there before the CG.


Quote: cheers Elaine

Get stuck in - have a play!

Also, can you promote the group in your gallery uploads - maybe paste this in the ABOUT section

Have you seen the new "YIN YANG GROUP" - it's a great way to get positive and constructive feedback on your photos - take a look her http://www.ephotozine.com/groups/yin-yang-790 and feel free to join in. We're all learning loads, it'd be a shame to miss out!

I'm a bit confused now Willie. Please would you clarify what I should do in future........I don't want to confuse everyone else.

Thanks again for your help - and honesty.

Elaine

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10845 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2836 Constructive Critique Points
22 Feb 2012 - 8:04 PM

If you mean clarify re the Yin Yang group, - a great group by the way, and Ade is alos a Critique Team member - its a great group to learn how to fine tune your shots using the feedback before you upload to the gallery.

Is this what you mean?

No harm at all in advertising a good group, - just the CT may not be the best place, - the general gallery is probably best.


Theres no exif data for speed, aperture etc, si its not possible to tell if the speed was causing bur with a moving fern.


If I missed something let me know.

Willie

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2339 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
22 Feb 2012 - 8:53 PM

Thanks Willie I misunderstood the purpose of the Yin Yang group. I thought it was upload here first, get advice, improve the shot then finally upload to Yin Yang!, and I just wanted to be helpful as I've had so much help myself on here.

Sorry about the missing exif.

Think this is one image destined for the bin!

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

Elaine

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pamelajean Critique Team 8763 forum postspamelajean vcard United Kingdom1591 Constructive Critique Points
22 Feb 2012 - 11:26 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

This had the potential to be a nice image, Elaine. The scene is very attractive and I like the background light through the trees.
I think it was worthwhile uploading it to the CG because you can learn something from it.
You say it is from an old slide, and that's probably why we have no Exif data. What you say that you have done to it in Elements doesn't seem to account for the overall green or the blur. At first sight, I noticed that the water flow was blurred and assumed you had used a slow shutter speed to do that, but it has also resulted in blur where the leaves on the trees, especially the one on the left, and the foreground ferns have moved in the breeze.
I have had a go at getting some colour correction and have uploaded a modification. I used Curves>RGB, selected the colour and played with the sliders. I also used Colour Balance and played with that too. I ended up desaturating the bridge brickwork altogether. I also desaturated the foreground ferns and grass as they remained quite bright.
My second modification is to give you an idea of what can be done if you just have a small part of a good image that needs rectifying. I cloned grass, gorse and fern in all sorts of directions in an effort to disguise the blurred ferns. I didn't finish the job, but just thought you might like to see how far I got. I'm not saying this image is recoverable, the choice has to be yours, and you will still have the blurred leaves. But it might be helpful to you some time in the future.
Pamela.

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banehawi
banehawi Critique Team 10845 forum postsbanehawi vcard Canada2836 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2012 - 3:28 AM

Ok, - I get it, didnt read the slide part, - thats also why its very saturated!


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paulbroad
paulbroad  781 forum posts United Kingdom850 Constructive Critique Points
23 Feb 2012 - 8:43 AM

Without seeing your original slide, there is something very wrong with your scanning technique. The image is over saturated, too contrasty and has lost a lot of sharpness.

Scanning transparencies increases contrast, so you need to reduce contrast in many cases when you scan - not later. It looks to me like you have used one of the dust removal systems, Digital ICE or similar. If so, do so with care - they are also very good at removing detail and causing blur. Always set at a low value.

Scan 35mm at a minimunm of 3200dpi to retain decent quality, providing you have a decent scanner. High street scanning is usually of a VERY low quality i fear.

Paul

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2339 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
23 Feb 2012 - 4:48 PM

Hi Pamela,

Yes absolutely, what you have shown me will be very useful to me in the future.

It's amazing what colour correction and cloning can rectify, and I can see how it could be used to save a good image which maybe has just a small area that needs enhancing.

Alas, I fear this is one image that is a bit too far gone. Shame - I do like the scene though and I still like my composition, maybe I'll come across this lovely place again one day, and get another bite at the cherry.

Thanks for the mods and your detailed help Pamela.

Namaste

Elaine

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WeeGeordieLass e2 Member 2339 forum postsWeeGeordieLass vcard England
23 Feb 2012 - 4:57 PM

Hi Paul,

You're spot on!

This is one of a batch of slides I had processed by a very famous high street photographic chain - and they made a complete hash of the job.

I've had the same response to other images from this batch that I've uploaded here, and I've come to the conclusion that the CD with the images on should be binned.

They're old slides I took about 15 years ago, and I thought there was some quite nice images - I guess what I need to do is concentrate on making good images in the present, and forget about the past.

Thanks for your very knowledgeable input.

Cheers

Elaine

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