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Thanks Everyone on all the comments and votes from yesterdays upload.

Here is another from that sunset with Goggz (Pete) and Banditman (Eifion) a couple a few weeks ago.

The light was much better behind me (this view) than looking towards the lighthouse and the sea and horizon.

Once again, been practising my processing and my frames.

Im going to try layers and curves soon Wink And this dodging stuff maybe too Wink

Thanks for looking and comments and mods are as usual very welcome.

Take care.

Lee Smile

Camera:Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro
Lens:Sigma 18 - 125
Recording media:RAW (digital)
Title:Elin's Tower
Username:WelshKiwi WelshKiwi
Uploaded:21 Jun 2008 - 6:25 PM
Tags:Anglesey, Architecture, Elins, General, Holyhead, Landscape / travel, North, South, Stack, Sunset, Tower, Wales, Ynys mon
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newy17
newy17  8273 forum posts United Kingdom
23 Jun 2008 - 5:53 PM

Nicley captured and presented Lee.
ian

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RobinF
RobinF  783 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jun 2008 - 7:11 AM

Lovely viewpoint and composition Lee - very nice! - regards, Robin

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
26 Jun 2008 - 7:39 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Lee, it reminds me of Lego. I did look at it before, but decided not to comment, cos everything I wanted to say was negative.

So the main points are:
I just feel that the positioning of the tower makes the composition uncomfortable to view. It's too close for me to the top of the image.

The colours looked saturated on my laptop, which I don't think is a good thing, cos if I look at this on the Mac with calibrated monitor I think it will be almost cartoon like.

The blue sea, looks particularly cartoon like and possibly even a little noisy.

I think this was a shot that needed more sympathetic lighting, nice golden light late or early in the day depending on the direction obviously.

Something in the foreground is good I believe from the shots I've seen on here that work, but rarely is that just a great expanse of land.

Do you still like me and want to help Smile

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WelshKiwi
WelshKiwi  63231 forum posts Wales2 Constructive Critique Points
26 Jun 2008 - 7:53 PM

Well, this is very interesting indeed. Smile

When I processed this, I deliberately OVER DID everything I normally do, just to see !!!!! Smile

I thought it looked too colourful (is that right) and not natural and I was hoping for some comments on this one.

I deliberately didnt say as I wanted honest crit that would teach me.

Once again Cheryl, you never fail. I would much rather harsh, but true, and telling me how than a vote or a "nice shot" comment.

I would really like to know why the people who have voted liked it because their opinions matter to me.

Its the only way Im going to learn. Please dont forget, Im practising and experimenting from the VERY beginning and I can only do that if your honest and tell me why.

Its a personal thing about the composition, I sort of like it but I did find myself looking for an image as it was limited, maybe if the processing had been correct it would have been better. Will take you there one day Smile

Thanks Cheryl, very much appreciated.

Lee Smile

Last Modified By WelshKiwi at 26 Jun 2008 - 7:58 PM

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csurry
csurry  129230 forum posts92 Constructive Critique Points
27 Jun 2008 - 5:19 PM

Yikes, just looked at it on the calibrated monitor Wink

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G73photography
27 Jun 2008 - 7:48 PM

this image does have potential, saturation is a little bit of a problem, possibly would have looked better with a bit more sky, i like the way the building is out of the dreaded centre so the rule of thirds thing is fine, something in the foreground would be usefull because as the image stands, theres not enough to keep the attention (not meant in a harsh way) , im thinking the white balance on the building doesnt match the white balance on the rocks as they look a bit magenta to me, not sure how high you hold the camera when you take pics, but for some landscape its best to have the camera as low to the ground as you can to bring in the foreground to go with the background, ill have a go at a few mods for you , G

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joolsb
joolsb  927115 forum posts Switzerland38 Constructive Critique Points
27 Jun 2008 - 7:55 PMConstructive Critique!This comment was flagged as constructive critique! 

Hi Lee,

Well, Cheryl has the main points covered so I won't labour what's wrong here. I find it quite interesting that you say you deliberately overdid this but really, in comparison to some of the horrors I've seen perpetrated here, it's quite restrained. The sea is obviously waaay too cyan and the greens have a rather chemical sludgy colour but the rest could almost pass for late evening light.

I find the best way of dealing with post-processing is to proceed methodically. First I set the white and black points using levels, then I adjust curves to 'normalise' the image by reigning in overbright highlights or lightening shadows. After this, I use selective colour to creatively pull and push individual hues (a good tip is to put more magenta into blues to compensate for the marked tendency of digital sensors to overdo cyan). Finally, I use another curves layer for final contrast tweaks. IF the shot really needs it, I use an HSL layer to put in a bit more saturation (but never very much).

I do all curves and levels adjustment in luminosity blending mode so as not to affect the colours.

Sticking to a preset plan of attack every time makes life a lot easier and you don't get stuck trying to figure out where to start.

Last Modified By joolsb at 27 Jun 2008 - 7:56 PM

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WelshKiwi
WelshKiwi  63231 forum posts Wales2 Constructive Critique Points
28 Jun 2008 - 9:40 AM

I think Ive realised what my problem is.....
Im not working in Curves and Layers. Could this be it ???

Thanks everyone.

Lee Smile

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roverrat
roverrat e2 Member 6roverrat vcard Germany5 Constructive Critique Points
10 Jul 2008 - 12:19 PM

It works for me Wink Warm evening light and tones, love the composition.
Alex

Last Modified By roverrat at 10 Jul 2008 - 12:25 PM

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dianah
dianah  724471 forum posts United Kingdom4 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2008 - 5:19 PM

Hi Lee. Love the rich colours in the foreground with the stark contrast of the white tower and the sea. Great shot.
Di

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JONTHELENS
31 Aug 2008 - 8:13 PM

Again i love the composition.

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