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recent pic up for crit just a grab shot does it work as a street shot

Brand:Canon
Camera:Canon EOS 60D
Lens:17-40mm f/4-23
Recording media:JPEG (digital)
Date Taken:6 Feb 2013 - 10:42 AM
Focal Length:17mm
Aperture:f/4.0
Shutter Speed:1/100sec
Exposure Comp:-2/3
ISO:100
Exposure Mode:Shutter speed priority AE
Metering Mode:Multi-segment
Flash:Off, Did not fire
White Balance:Auto
Title:A GIRL WAITING
Username:youmightlikethis youmightlikethis
Uploaded:25 Feb 2013 - 7:43 PM
Tags:Black & white, General, Photo journalism, Portraits / people
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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2013 - 7:58 PM

I find this an interesting image, good capture. Is that at the back of where Borders Bookshop was?
I' not sure what you have done with your processing, having seen your work I guess it's intentional. The woman has a halo both in BW and colour.
I like the colour more but I reckon you need to get rid of the halo effect.
regards
Ian

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youmightlikethis
youmightlikethis e2 Member 121312 forum postsyoumightlikethis vcard Scotland
25 Feb 2013 - 8:12 PM

thanks for crit no edit v3 just round the corner from borders which has been turned into an Italian restaurant

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iancrowson
iancrowson e2 Member 4211 forum postsiancrowson vcard United Kingdom129 Constructive Critique Points
25 Feb 2013 - 8:55 PM

I like the overall effect of V2. I see V3, you have turned evening into day, I can live with, actually like the grainy effect but the halos...............!
Maybe if you gave an explanation of your aims and methods used someone might help. If you started with a RAW image you would be able to make more adjustments without creating artefacts although I expect the grainy look is intentional.
Ian

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Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41262 forum posts United Kingdom203 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2013 - 1:08 AM

As a street shot, it doesn't really say much...you can't see what she's looking at, or what she's waiting for. Good street shots have a sense of cohesion, when elements come together, perhaps to tell a story, perhaps to show juxtapositions or natural comedy. To me, this is just a shot taken in the street. If you'd gone round the other side and shot face-on, it would have been a whole lot better...hopefully as a photographer, she wouldn't have objected too much.

Your processing is again uneven, as Ian says above. The tonemapping makes obvious haloes and unevenness in what should be flat tones (such as paving slabs, painted walls etc), though this doesn't look as extreme as some of your other submissions. The paving slabs in v2 and around the tripod head show this a lot.

The grain effect is ok, as I can see you intended it, but it isn't like film grain, and is quite intrusive. Your settings, considering it looks dull and dark, are on the low side....you used 100 ISO, when you could comfortably gone to 400 or 800 to up your shutter speed, and you've also used a -2/3 compensation which has made the original even more murky. That limits your ability to drag tonal range from your image which is why (along with the tonemapping) everything looks flat.

Not one of your better images, I'm afraid. You need it to be brighter in the first place so you don't have to work it so hard to produce a final image.

Nick

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paulbroad
paulbroad  789 forum posts United Kingdom879 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2013 - 8:29 AM

Not the greatest street shot, ian. Not lively and with interesting faces like you usually have. V3 is very under exposed indeed and lightening that has resulted in the flat look and lots of heavy grain. The halos are to be avoided and it is a feature of your processing, usually in the sky.

A more natural approach would have been rather better this time.

Paul

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mrswoolybill Critique Team 8520 forum postsmrswoolybill vcard United Kingdom1088 Constructive Critique Points
26 Feb 2013 - 2:50 PM

I follow your street photography (sometimes in spite of rather than because of your processing... ) but this isn't up with your best. It doesn't really tell me anything about the place or the person, or create much of a relationship between the two. The strong point is the very satisfying, strong set of lines in the lower bit of the frame. I'd like to find that spot, hang around with this composition in mind and wait for something more interesting to happen.
Moira

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