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3rd party batteries for Canon


sherlob Plus
14 3.1k 129 United Kingdom
27 Jan 2018 9:34PM
I知 looking to buy a spare battery for my Canon 5DS. I知 going on holiday later in the year and charging batteries may be an issue for a few days - so hence my need for a spare. It痴 not likely to get much use beyond this.

TBH I知 loathed to pay 」70 for an original, but it seems most online reviews of third party batteries report issues with capacity (not holding charge) and charge time. Furthermore, Ive read some worrying comments about the long term effects of 3rd party batteries on the electronics of the camera.

Any experiences, recommendations, thoughts...

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StrayCat 16 19.1k 3 Canada
27 Jan 2018 9:46PM
I have always bought 3rd party batteries, and had very good results, however, I just switched to Canon, and I did a bit of research, I decided I would not chance it, and paid almost $100 for a Canon spare, because I wouldn't buy it online. I went to a local camera shop and got it. I agree with some of the online reports of issues; the 3rd party ones I had lost there charge much sooner when not in use, they were not bad if charged immediately prior to use, and the total life was much shorter than the camera brand's batteries. In my case, I have a new camera, and each time you start the camera, you would have to make selections re the 3rd party battery. I'm concerned about the warranty, so I went for the original. The camera companies have coded the batteries, and some 3rd party companies mention this. I wouldn't be caught without a spare, even if it's just for a short walk around home, you have to remember to keep it fully charged all the time if you only have one.
thewilliam2 3 1.4k
27 Jan 2018 11:20PM
Do camera manufacturers buy in batteries from a specialist or do they make their own?

If the former, it's probably from one of the larger, more reputable battery companies and it might be possible to get them direct. I've found that batteries from Delkin or Duracell are as good as the "real thing" and there are probably other companies selling good quality equivalents.

I'm always careful where I buy the batteries and it's always from a reputable firm. Somewhere like Wex will sell you a reliable product,
PRC 5 248 United Kingdom
27 Jan 2018 11:37PM
I understand that it's not advisable to fully charge lithium batteries and then not use them for a while, because that is one way of shortening their life. I fly radio-controlled model aircraft, some of which are powered by lithium polymer batteries. They're obviously much bigger than camera batteries and I don't know how different batteries labelled 'lithium polymer' (or Li-Po) and 'lithium ion' are, but I think the battery technology is similar enough. One supplier states "If you plan to store your LiPo cells for an extended period (over 1 month), discharge them as you would normally, then charge them to only 3.80V/3.85V per cell" which equates to something like 85-90%. So for my camera batteries, when I put a fresh one in the camera, I don't charge the used one immediately unless I plan another photography session in the next few days. Without having done any scientific analysis, I think the batteries I've bought since doing this have lasted more cycles before their performance has deteriorated significantly.
LenShepherd 12 4.2k United Kingdom
28 Jan 2018 8:24AM

Quote:I知 looking to buy a spare battery for my Canon 5DS. I知 going on holiday later in the year and charging batteries may be an issue for a few days - so hence my need for a spare. I
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Generally spare lithium-ion batteries are not allowed on air flights or in the post though they are OK inside a camera body.
I understand one of the concerns is a short circuit across the contacts can cause a big enough discharge to start a fire.
Some say the plastic contact cover for the terminals is enough.
On the other hand some retailers are not prepared to ship spare lithium-ion Royal Mail.
I suggest talking to some-one with knowledge at the airline as to what you can take and then getting clarification in writing.
One possible solution if you cannot take a spare is a second body you do not intend to use with a battery in it.
sherlob Plus
14 3.1k 129 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2018 9:35AM

Quote:One possible solution if you cannot take a spare is a second body you do not intend to use with a battery in it.


Thanks Len that is useful to know. I'm flying Emirates so I'll check. I don't have a second body in which the battery would fit. Albeit a second body might prove useful on the holiday I could do without the weight and expense!
Philh04 Plus
14 2.1k United Kingdom
28 Jan 2018 9:53AM

Quote:Generally spare lithium-ion batteries are not allowed on air flights or in the post though they are OK inside a camera body.


Maybe check the CAA guidelines as to what is and isn't allowed, tape the contacts and you are OK to carry a pair of spares in your carry on baggage or on ones person, but not in your checked-in baggage, but yes it is wise to check with the airline (how do you think all these photo tours to foreign climes cope?)

https://www.caa.co.uk/Passengers/Before-you-fly/Baggage/Items-that-are-allowed-in-baggage/

To the original question, whilst I would normally recommend Canon's own batteries they are rather costly, not so long ago, due to leaving two pairs of spare batteries at an acquaintances property and no chance of retrieving them in the short term I bought a pair from Am@zon, they were cheap and came with a USB charger that has proved to be useful particularly using one of the USB sockets in my car. I still use these two batteries with no problems whatsoever, despite having retrieved my other two sets, others mileage may vary mind....
LenShepherd 12 4.2k United Kingdom
28 Jan 2018 1:11PM

Quote:
I could do without the weight and expense!


Off topic, some smaller heavier items can be conveniently carried in the pockets of a photo vest.
LenShepherd 12 4.2k United Kingdom
28 Jan 2018 1:24PM
My experience with independent batteries has been a mini disaster Sad
I bought 2 Energizer labels ones for Nikon just over 2 years ago.
On a detail I understand Energizer is a recognised brand name that a manufacturer can pay to use and not an actual battery manufacturer.
One failed after 2 weeks and was replaced.
Now one discharges at about 4 times the speed of a Nikon battery, and the other at about 15x.
Adding insult to injury neither my recent D500 or my D850 recognises them Sad
I wasted money Sad
ckristoff 15 994 Wales
28 Jan 2018 4:06PM
Sherlob,

In my own personal opinion, you have a quality camera in the 5DS; I fail to understand, why you would waste money on a cheap alternative? So you're flying to a destination, why do you perceive a problem in keeping your battery charged?

I've got my 7D, which is nearly 8 years old. I've only got my original battery and haven't got the need for a spare one.


Frank.
sherlob Plus
14 3.1k 129 United Kingdom
28 Jan 2018 4:24PM
Frank,

I値l be taking a charger, but it may be difficult to plug it in whilst camping on safari - yet I hope to be using the camera a lot.

I agree about the canon original issue, but 」70 for a battery I知 not likely to use beyond this trip is a bit steep. I am considering buying a canon original and then selling it on after the trip - still I could do without the outlay.

A.
ckristoff 15 994 Wales
28 Jan 2018 4:55PM
Sherlob,

I apologise - I didn't realise you're going on safari.

I also understand your reasoning, regarding the battery. I trust you'll enjoy your trip!


Frank.
thewilliam2 3 1.4k
28 Jan 2018 5:25PM
Is it possible to hire batteries?
Chrism8 13 945 27 England
28 Jan 2018 6:03PM
Wouldn't have thought so, the cheapish purchase price would mean it's not viable

Chris
filmforever 12 775
28 Jan 2018 8:36PM
Anyone considering buying a spare battery from an unknown source should realise there are many fake (and sometimes dangerous) batteries around, posing as "genuine"... often imported from China. These could damage your camera.

The bitterness of a faulty product lasts long after the sweetness of a "bargain price" has been forgotten.




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