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User_Removed 13 2.2k 3 United Kingdom
9 Nov 2007 6:51PM
In that I'm having serious problems getting anyone to give me a quote for card printing on 400gsm (for example) art stock I'm starting to contemplate actually buying my own printer. On first inspection it seems that a colour laser jet may be the right choice but I was wondering if anyone on here has already travelled the road I've just turned onto and would consider lending a follow traveller some advice. Opinions greatly appreciated
JohnHorne 16 1.0k
9 Nov 2007 7:13PM
Have you tried Polite ? They print on 350gsm card and 400gsm art board.
bikerbob 19 182
9 Nov 2007 7:33PM
If you do decide to buy your own printer then make sure it will print on 400gsm card before you buy because a lot of printers will not take that thickness. My Epson R1800 has difficulty taking 300gsm. and I have a friend who has a canon printer and it will not take 300gsm.
scthomas 14 62 United Kingdom
9 Nov 2007 10:03PM
Very few laser printers will print on 400gsm card. I am a printer and we have an assortment of machines from litho to colour digital and even our 15,000 colour printer only takes a maximum of 265gsm. Our Lexmark A3 colour prints maximum 280gsm.
User_Removed 13 2.2k 3 United Kingdom
10 Nov 2007 8:52AM

Quote:Have you tried Polite ? They print on 350gsm card and 400gsm art board.


Thanks John. The prices are good but there's a minimum 500 print run, which is a real inhibitor for a startup business. When I'm up and going then I'll seriously consider them because they're reasonably local.
JohnHorne 16 1.0k
10 Nov 2007 4:14PM
How many do you want to produce ? A quick Google finds WhiteSpark Promotions , who will print just 250 (400gsm). Simply Design and Print will do just 100 (but its only 300gsm).
dcash29 15 2.4k England
10 Nov 2007 4:34PM
A friend of mine owns a printing company and hes just installed a digital machine.
Like the last post asked....how many? what size? will you need cutting facilities after?
User_Removed 13 2.2k 3 United Kingdom
10 Nov 2007 9:43PM
Thanks again John.

I've been trying to get quotes for a run of 100 each of 20 designs, artwork supplied by me, and while superficially a run of over 2000 impressions appears worthwhile because it's actually 20 runs of 100 impressions it seems that the overheads don't actually make it worth their while. I can understand this but it's really not helpful for startups to be having to sink a couple of grand into what is after all a slow moving product. You have to be absolutely dead certain that they're going to sell, which is why I'd prefer to make batches of 100 and keep the sunk cost to less than 1000 at this stage.

Chris
User_Removed 13 2.2k 3 United Kingdom
10 Nov 2007 9:45PM

Quote:A friend of mine owns a printing company and hes just installed a digital machine.
Like the last post asked....how many? what size? will you need cutting facilities after?



Dave, I'd like to end up with a finished card, creased. I'm happy to source the envelopes and bags. I've already got suppliers for them.

Chris
chrissd 15 304 United Kingdom
11 Nov 2007 4:35AM
I print my own cards, I tried every paper in the world up to 330 gsm, which is still not thick enough, so I put a card insert inside which keeps it stiff and seems to work well. I have only found 1 printing company who will do small print runs, but then the cost goes up, will be very interested if you can find one
chris

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