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Coleslaw 15 13.4k 28 Wales
1 Mar 2012 11:20AM
Coleslaw 15 13.4k 28 Wales
1 Mar 2012 4:19PM
Well, the full specs is now out:

Quote:Unsurpassed Image Quality
22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)

High Performance Operation
61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
3.2-type, approx.1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles

High end features
Silent & low vibration modes
Dual card slots (CF & SD)
High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
Multiple Exposures
Comparative Playback function
Improved durability & water and dust resistance

Available Colours Black
Megapixels 22MP
Sensor Size 36 x 24mm
ISO/Sensitivity 100 25600
Autofocus Points 61 points
Lens Mount Canon
LCD Size 3.2″
Liveview Yes
Viewfinder Optical TTL
Min Shutter Speed 30 sec
Max Shutter Speed 1/8000 sec
Continuous Shooting Speed 6 fps
Self Timer 10 sec, 2 sec
Metering Centre-weighted, Spot, Evaluative, Partial
Video Resolution Full HD 1080
Memory Type Compact Flash
Connectivity USB 2, HDMI, Mic Input, Wireless (optional)
Battery LP-E6
Battery Type Lithium-ion
Charger Includes Li-Ion Charger
File Formats AVI, RAW, H.264, MOV, MPEG-4
Dimensions 152 x 116 x 76mm
Box Contents Battery Pack LP-E6 .. Battery Charger LC-E6 .. AV Cable AVC-DC400ST .. Interface Cable IFC-200U .. Eyecup Eg .. Wide Strap EWEOS5DMKIII .. CR1616 Lithium Battery+

strawman 16 22.1k 16 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2012 4:39PM
Sounds good, I wonder what the street price will be.
mattw 16 5.2k 10 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2012 4:44PM

Quote:Silent & low vibration modes


(Is this code for a 'Mirror Lockup' mode?

High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode

hmm. We'll see what that does.

Quote:Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage

Pardon? Intelligent viewfinder?
brian1208 17 11.8k 12 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2012 4:52PM

Quote:Pardon? Intelligent viewfinder?

Tells you what to shoot to get an EC maybe? Wink
strawman 16 22.1k 16 United Kingdom
1 Mar 2012 5:35PM
Have they brought back the call Spock button Smile

I can just imagine it, there you are posing the model just so with the bunch of grapes carefully position in the frame and up pop's the viewfinder message.

Quote:That is illogical captain.

Sensors indicate there is a much better photograph 2 meters to the left

I tell you it is the death of photography Wink
Coleslaw 15 13.4k 28 Wales
1 Mar 2012 9:24PM
User_Removed 10 4.6k 1 Scotland
2 Mar 2012 1:11PM
Now being advertised by WEX and Park.


Looks like the Nikon D800 at 2095 (Mathers price) or even 2395 (Park and WEX price) will be the clear winner.

Except, of course, that most keen amateurs have much more cash invested in lenses and accessories than in camera bodies, so may not jump ship as readily as the magazines suggest.
Coleslaw 15 13.4k 28 Wales
2 Mar 2012 1:20PM
Just thinking aloud. I know it is far too early to tell, but in principle or in very general term:

Even if the D800 ISO performance is not as good as 5D3 (which most probably be the case).
But as D800 has more MP = more details.
Does that mean we can apply more noise reduction and still get the details as good as 5D3?
User_Removed 10 4.6k 1 Scotland
2 Mar 2012 1:29PM
Hypothetically, Coleslaw, I think the answer would be "no". It's not so much that noise reduction affects the basic resolution of the image but, rather, that its effect on edges make the image look less sharp.

My guess is that, once we see the tests, both those cameras will perform pretty well at low to moderately high ISO and anyone really hooked on very low light work will go for a D4 or even a s/h D3s.

In the 18 months that I had a D3s, with its 104,000 ISO capability, I never took a serious photograph at above 12,800 and rarely above 6400. I suspect that would be much the same for most "generalist amateurs".

colin beeley Plus
17 1.2k 10 England
2 Mar 2012 6:09PM
2 Mar 2012 6:13PM
Apologies if this has already been posted. Here's a shot taken by the 5DMKII... at 25,600 ISO.

Pretty impressive.

Britman 14 1.7k England
2 Mar 2012 6:52PM
well it's out there now, who else thinks Canon are taking the piss with the prices? Sure it will go down, a little, but 3k for the body 650 for the new 600EX-RT and 400 for the battery grip.

Just wondering, how much can you get a cheap weekend in New York for, spend part of the 3k on that and buy the 5D3 from B&H for 2300. Sure you're still paying 3k but you get an awesome weekend in New York with a new camera.
User_Removed 10 4.6k 1 Scotland
2 Mar 2012 7:05PM

Just wondering, how much can you get a cheap weekend in New York for, spend part of the 3k on that and buy the 5D3 from B&H for 2300.

Plus NY state sales tax! Unlike UK, prices in USA are always quoted without tax. And then add 30% to cover import duty and VAT when you bring it through UK customs. (plus the 10,000 fine or confiscation if you get caught not declaring it! )
strawman 16 22.1k 16 United Kingdom
2 Mar 2012 11:36PM
Based on past experience, expect it to drop to @ 2,600 once the initial rush is over, then about a year later 2,200, and wait another year for it to get to 1,800. Just based on watching the trends of past Canon cameras. I agree with you 3,000 is too much, but I bet you there will be a lot of people pre-ordering.

The interesting comment regarding detail between the D800 and 5D MKIII is will there be many conditions where the two cameras are resolution limited by the lenses so not much in it. Diffraction would indicate that somewhere in the f11 to f16 range their results will get very close. And wide open most lenses are not at their best, especially zooms. So it would not surprise me to find that for f2.8 lenses you only get a significant resolution difference f4 to f8. It is all going to come down to how aggressive the anti-aliasing filters are and how good the lenses are mixed with your ability to hit the sweet spot in terms of focusing accuracy/point and camera stability.

I am intrigued to see how this shakes out. Pricing looks so wrong on the Canon. But if they sell by the bucket load then Canon will have been correct. I look at new BMW and Audi cars and think they are over priced for what they are, but people buy them so I am wrong Smile

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