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robertt Avatar
robertt Plus
17 151 United Kingdom
28 Oct 2018 7:57PM
I have just bought a new monitor, an Ilyama 24 inch. I use a Canon pro 100 and Qimage. On The first print the red came out brown. I am thinking of buying the Dataclour spyder pro. Has anybody used this with success as it does"nt seem to work for a lot of people. Robertt.
justin c Avatar
justin c 19 5.2k 36 England
28 Oct 2018 9:23PM
Not used that one but I can certainly recommend the XRite i1Display Pro.
daniel66 Avatar
daniel66 7 64 United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 7:03AM
Not all of the Spyder software packages allow measuring of the screen's luminance, so I'd be wary of that before buying. It's a fundamental part of calibration. I'd probably buy the cheaper Express package and pair it with a third-party calibration program (e.g. basICColor display 5 or DisplayCal ).



sausage Avatar
sausage 19 704 United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 8:08AM
Another vote for the i1 Display Pro. It will calibrate your screen but the printer may be another matter.
RoyBoy Avatar
RoyBoy 18 303 2 United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 8:48AM
I have used two Spyder’s in the past but now use an i1 Pro which in my view is far superior.
daniel66 Avatar
daniel66 7 64 United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 10:02AM
I have the XRite i1Display Pro, which tested among the more accurate colorimeters on the Dry Creek website a few years back (2011, to be precise). The Spyder should get the job done for anyone on a budget. Broadly speaking, X-Rite has the slightly better reputation for hardware and Datacolor for software.

Colour management does always require two profiles, so you have to be sure the printer profile is up to the task. A canned/generic profile is theoretically not as desirable as a custom profile, so that's another avenue to go down if things don't look right.
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Normanr 9 87 England
29 Oct 2018 5:15PM
I use the Spyder 5 pro on twin monitor set up Asus monitors and have not had any calibration issues.

I rarely home print and use DCL as required, there has always been a close match between monitor image and returned prints from DCL as well as all images uploaded to this and other photographic sites.
Philh04 Avatar
Philh04 18 2.3k United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 5:28PM

Quote:I have just bought a new monitor, an Ilyama 24 inch. I use a Canon pro 100 and Qimage. On The first print the red came out brown. I am thinking of buying the Dataclour spyder pro. Has anybody used this with success as it does"nt seem to work for a lot of people. Robertt.

Were your prints the correct colour before the new monitor?
If they were have you tried a test from an earlier edit?

Calibrating and profiling your monitor is only a part of the equation.

I think you do need to give a bit more detail, but as for recommendations I too am in the Xrite camp using a ColorMunki Photo for both monitor calibration and profiling and printer/ink/paper profiling.
robertt Avatar
robertt Plus
17 151 United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 6:58PM
Have ordered the Colormunki . On the videos I have seen some times it goes wrong and it applies it automatically, If this happens can you go back to the original. Robertt
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Philh04 18 2.3k United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 7:54PM

Quote:Have ordered the Colormunki . On the videos I have seen some times it goes wrong and it applies it automatically, If this happens can you go back to the original. Robertt

You can always go back by removing the profile, you want your monitor profile to be used all the time, hence it should be applied automatically (you need to re-calibarate/profile on a regular basis). For the most part poor calibration and profiling is down to operator error. Bare in mind that the monitor profile is only a part of colour management....
Chris_L Avatar
Chris_L 9 5.5k United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 8:56PM
Iiyama make some good monitors with accurate colours and IPS panels, but they also make a range of cheap and nasty monitors aimed at gamers and movie watchers, which are not suitable for photo editing. Which did you get?
daniel66 Avatar
daniel66 7 64 United Kingdom
29 Oct 2018 11:19PM
Theoretically, you have to soft proof to get the closest print-to-screen match, otherwise you're only looking at the colours of the profiled monitor.

If you think your monitor profile is broken/corrupt, you can substitute it with sRGB to verify that (or Adobe RGB for wide gamut monitors). These colour spaces aren't ideal as monitor profiles, but they're useful for diagnosing problems.
robertt Avatar
robertt Plus
17 151 United Kingdom
30 Oct 2018 4:11PM
Chris_L. My monitor is, Prolite XUB2495 WSU-B1 24INCH WUXGA IPS MONITOR. 16-10, 5ms, 1920x1200, with blue light reduser. robertt
Chris_L Avatar
Chris_L 9 5.5k United Kingdom
30 Oct 2018 9:36PM
Should be fine for photo use, but be sure to turn off the gimmicks (dynamic contrast, blue light reducer etc).

For initial set up use this page
robertt Avatar
robertt Plus
17 151 United Kingdom
31 Oct 2018 6:06PM
Colormunki came today, So I tried to calibrate the monitor. It said my monitor was not bright enough and to set it to 120 brightness, the monitor won`t let me alter the brightness so I clicked next. When it finished I tried the before and after and it was worse than before, so I closed it down then tried the monitor buttons and it let me alter the brightness. Calibrated it again and now it is ok. Thaks everybody for your help.
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