Canon EOS 5DS R Metering

I am almost always on 'Tv' mode, rarely come out out of 'Evaluative' metering mode, when I do, I use 'Spot'. Focus point is moved around to suit composition. Does the camera meter around the selected point of focus? Do not see guidance in the manual. Thank you.

I am almost always on 'Tv' mode, rarely come out out of 'Evaluative' metering mode, when I do, I use 'Spot'. Focus point is moved around to suit composition. Does the camera meter around the selected point of focus? Do not see guidance in the manual.
Thank you.

From the Canon website referring to the 5DS R: Spot metering: "This is for metering a specific spot of the subject or scene. [b]The metering is weighted at the center [/b]covering approx. 1.3% of the viewfinder area." No mention is made of being able to move it...

From the Canon website referring to the 5DS R:

Spot metering:
"This is for metering a specific spot of the subject or scene. The metering is weighted at the center covering approx. 1.3% of the viewfinder area."
No mention is made of being able to move it...

"1.3%" - is a marketing "wheeze" - to make the metering seem similar to about a 1 degree spot in some hand held meters. The angle of view is usually distinctly larger than 1 degree. With most Nikon DSLR's the spot - similarly described - is just a little larger than most single AF points - and cover an angle of view of about 3.5 degrees when using a 50mm lens. Using spot with the central AF point and spot metering aim the camera at something like a street light at night, then move the camera viewfinder from side to side and note where metering changes significantly to get a good idea of how much of the viewfinder is covered by spot metering. Also check if Canon spot metering is from the centre of the frame regardless of the AF point used. With Nikon spot metering is usually from the the area of the active AF point.

"1.3%" - is a marketing "wheeze" - to make the metering seem similar to about a 1 degree spot in some hand held meters.
The angle of view is usually distinctly larger than 1 degree.

With most Nikon DSLR's the spot - similarly described - is just a little larger than most single AF points - and cover an angle of view of about 3.5 degrees when using a 50mm lens.

Using spot with the central AF point and spot metering aim the camera at something like a street light at night, then move the camera viewfinder from side to side and note where metering changes significantly to get a good idea of how much of the viewfinder is covered by spot metering.

Also check if Canon spot metering is from the centre of the frame regardless of the AF point used. With Nikon spot metering is usually from the the area of the active AF point.

I believe that I have not been understood. The DsR has a cluster of sixty plus selectable focus points. My question is for example I choose a focusing point in the top left corner of the cluster to suit my composition, as my point of focus, does the camera bias its metering, evaluative or spot around that selected focus point? Thank you.

I believe that I have not been understood. The DsR has a cluster of sixty plus selectable focus points. My question is for example I choose a focusing point in the top left corner of the cluster to suit my composition, as my point of focus, does the camera bias its metering, evaluative or spot around that selected focus point?
Thank you.

[quote]The DsR has a cluster of sixty plus selectable focus points. My question is for example I choose a focusing point in the top left corner of the cluster to suit my composition, as my point of focus, does the camera bias its metering, evaluative or spot around that selected focus point? Thank you.[/quote] This is how Nikon works. You will have to check your handbook specifications et cetera to see how Canon works. You need to be aware that with either system if using a spot reading [i]no exposure compensation is applied[/i] and that the metering will be based on whatever the camera reflectance is based. This is likely to be between about 12% and 18% - though more usually about 12%. With spot metering you have to apply exposure compensation - perhaps for highly reflective snow or in the UK for "summer landscape greens" which are half to 1 stop darker than spring greens. With evaluative/matrix metering to some extent the system looks at scene contrast, colours etc - and usually applies exposure compensation for you - but without telling you how much compensation has been a applied :( For relative novices a common cause of wide exposure variation is is unintentionally setting exposing bracket in on the camera.

Quote:The DsR has a cluster of sixty plus selectable focus points. My question is for example I choose a focusing point in the top left corner of the cluster to suit my composition, as my point of focus, does the camera bias its metering, evaluative or spot around that selected focus point?
Thank you.

This is how Nikon works.
You will have to check your handbook specifications et cetera to see how Canon works.

You need to be aware that with either system if using a spot reading no exposure compensation is applied and that the metering will be based on whatever the camera reflectance is based. This is likely to be between about 12% and 18% - though more usually about 12%.

With spot metering you have to apply exposure compensation - perhaps for highly reflective snow or in the UK for "summer landscape greens" which are half to 1 stop darker than spring greens.

With evaluative/matrix metering to some extent the system looks at scene contrast, colours etc - and usually applies exposure compensation for you - but without telling you how much compensation has been a applied

For relative novices a common cause of wide exposure variation is is unintentionally setting exposing bracket in on the camera.

[quote]I believe that I have not been understood. The DsR has a cluster of sixty plus selectable focus points. My question is for example I choose a focusing point in the top left corner of the cluster to suit my composition, as my point of focus, does the camera bias its metering, evaluative or spot around that selected focus point? Thank you.[/quote] I repeat the answer I gave above...if you go to page 212 of the online user manual, you will see that it states what I have quoted above. Nowhere does it mention being able to combine focus and metering points other than in the centre of the sensor.

Quote:I believe that I have not been understood. The DsR has a cluster of sixty plus selectable focus points. My question is for example I choose a focusing point in the top left corner of the cluster to suit my composition, as my point of focus, does the camera bias its metering, evaluative or spot around that selected focus point?
Thank you.

I repeat the answer I gave above...if you go to page 212 of the online user manual, you will see that it states what I have quoted above. Nowhere does it mention being able to combine focus and metering points other than in the centre of the sensor.

I was made up when I got my first DSLR with spot metering, I never use it. All too often it's tempting to over-complicate things, I've never come across a situation where evaluative metering and judicious use of the on-camera LCD and histogram combined with exposure compensation hasn't got the results I want https://hk.canon/en/support/8202597800

I was made up when I got my first DSLR with spot metering, I never use it.

All too often it's tempting to over-complicate things, I've never come across a situation where evaluative metering and judicious use of the on-camera LCD and histogram combined with exposure compensation hasn't got the results I want

https://hk.canon/en/support/8202597800