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Simon-Gimson 11 236 1 England
31 Jan 2007 5:21PM
hi all just found this site on ebay check it out

cheap cameras


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User_Removed 14 3.3k Russian Federation
31 Jan 2007 5:23PM
(...Sound of a can of worms being opened)
da_nige 14 1.2k Scotland
31 Jan 2007 5:27PM
Was thinking the same thing James.

Basically Simon they aint as cheap as they look. Canon Outlet is a known shill bidder (bids on their own stuff) Also some people pay crazy money cos it is a Canon shop i.e 10 less than new at times.
keithh Plus
14 25.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
31 Jan 2007 5:28PM
Did anyone hear the report on Shill Bidding this week - seems a whole host of sellers wouldn't dream of not Shiilin'......one reason you wouldn't find me near that glorified car boot sale.
Simon-Gimson 11 236 1 England
31 Jan 2007 5:29PM
o ok just looked good to me
User_Removed 14 17.9k 8 Norway
31 Jan 2007 6:22PM
Interesting one to watch from the 'Shill-bidding' perspective... Popular camera and less than an hour to go!

Funny though; all of the 7 bids are from bidders called 'Bidder' (1,2,3, and 4)

How strange!

Snapper Plus
13 4.3k 3 United States Outlying Islands
31 Jan 2007 6:32PM

That is standard practice now whenever an item goes over a certain figure (100?). Standard wording as follows

Quote: As online shopping evolves, eBay continues to focus on preserving our marketplace's open and level playingfield whilst protecting our Community of members. We have decided to change how bid history information is displayed so unscrupulous people cannot target bidders with fake offers using this information. In certain cases, some bidders will no longer be able to see other bidder's User IDs on the listing page. Your User ID will be shown only to you and the seller of the item you're bidding on. Other members will see an anonymous name, such as Bidder 1, Bidder 2 etc.

If you go to the list of bidders and hover the mouse over View, a box pops up telling you the range of their feedback and how long they've been a member.
cambirder 14 7.2k England
31 Jan 2007 6:33PM
Not strange, just Ebays stupid idea to hide bidding ID's on items over 100. This is a security measure to prevent them getting dodgy second chance offers from spammers.

Unfortunately it hides shilling as well.
User_Removed 14 17.9k 8 Norway
31 Jan 2007 7:11PM
I stand corrected Peter. An interesting concept but as Paul says, it will also 'mask' shillers too.
nickfrog 11 333
2 Feb 2007 10:19AM
Someone here got a faulty 400d from them recently.
Mike Gray 13 382 United Kingdom
2 Feb 2007 10:31AM
You can get a new one for 449,
So Canon must be laughing all the way to the bank selling a refurbished one for 430 and no middle man.
2 Feb 2007 10:32AM
nickfrog 11 333
2 Feb 2007 11:06AM
There is a middle man. Canon are not selling direct. Canon outlet is not a part of Canon. Canon chose to use them to off load their returns.
2 Feb 2007 11:34AM
Thats not my understanding. The Canon Outlet is Canon, but the operation is run by Digital River on behalf of Canon. It is still Canon selling direct, just through a distribution/e-services company.

I stand to be corrected though.
RichardN00 11 432 1 United Kingdom
2 Feb 2007 12:40PM
Interesting to look at the 'Bid Activity with this seller' the majority of the bidders seem to do a lot of business with this guy, either he's got a very faithful group of buyers or there's something 'interesting' going on.

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