D700 available

Nah, I have a nice new clean sensor in my D3, even after 5 days in Norway. :D

Nah, I have a nice new clean sensor in my D3, even after 5 days in Norway.

I hope it's not too off-topic for the thread, but can I ask for further, more serious thoughts on the advantages of a D3 over a D700 (perhaps a bit early to get much user feedback on the D700)? I'm planning a serious investment in one or the other, along with some lenses, including a 24mm PCE (tilt/shift). The D700 looks like it does most of what the D3 can, although one thing I'll need to try out is the PCE lens on a D700 - I've read reports that clearance is 'tight' on bodies (ie the D300) with a built in flash. Fast AF and FPS are not big concerns for me, most of my paid work is interior and architectural, with more wedding and portraiture planned. Advantages of the D700 I can see are: price - almost one of the lenses I want! ability to write tiffs - I'm doing more work in jpeg now, where I have to turn around lots of images quickly, and thinking shooting tiff might be a good idea. Advantage of D3: built in grip [i]may[/i] work better with PC lens dual card slots (handy insurance for weddings) 100% viewfinder coverage Any thoughts?

I hope it's not too off-topic for the thread, but can I ask for further, more serious thoughts on the advantages of a D3 over a D700 (perhaps a bit early to get much user feedback on the D700)?

I'm planning a serious investment in one or the other, along with some lenses, including a 24mm PCE (tilt/shift). The D700 looks like it does most of what the D3 can, although one thing I'll need to try out is the PCE lens on a D700 - I've read reports that clearance is 'tight' on bodies (ie the D300) with a built in flash.

Fast AF and FPS are not big concerns for me, most of my paid work is interior and architectural, with more wedding and portraiture planned.

Advantages of the D700 I can see are:
price - almost one of the lenses I want!
ability to write tiffs - I'm doing more work in jpeg now, where I have to turn around lots of images quickly, and thinking shooting tiff might be a good idea.

Advantage of D3:
built in grip
may work better with PC lens
dual card slots (handy insurance for weddings)
100% viewfinder coverage

Any thoughts?

[quote]Any thoughts?[/quote] Going back in time it is like comparing an F100 to an F5. They are different cameras for different markets. Both are very good (just beating a D3 for resolution when loaded with 100 ISO slide film) and both deliver close to identical image quality. Digressing with the street price of the 5D now around £1,300 and the D700 under £1700 at places like RGB for those wanting to move from crop sensor to FF digital the D700 could take quite a few 5D sales in addition ti Nikon users upgrading.

Quote:Any thoughts?

Going back in time it is like comparing an F100 to an F5. They are different cameras for different markets. Both are very good (just beating a D3 for resolution when loaded with 100 ISO slide film) and both deliver close to identical image quality.
Digressing with the street price of the 5D now around £1,300 and the D700 under £1700 at places like RGB for those wanting to move from crop sensor to FF digital the D700 could take quite a few 5D sales in addition ti Nikon users upgrading.

[quote]Digressing with the street price of the 5D now around £1,300 and the D700 under £1700 at places like RGB for those wanting to move from crop sensor to FF digital the D700 could take quite a few 5D sales in addition ti Nikon users upgrading[/quote] £1700 is good for a D700 - where did you see that? The D700 does have a few advantages over the 5D, but image quality (at least at ISO 1600 and below) is not one of them. If you are not tied to Nikon, then it may be worth waiting a month or two to see if there is an anouncement from Canon.

Quote:Digressing with the street price of the 5D now around £1,300 and the D700 under £1700 at places like RGB for those wanting to move from crop sensor to FF digital the D700 could take quite a few 5D sales in addition ti Nikon users upgrading

£1700 is good for a D700 - where did you see that?

The D700 does have a few advantages over the 5D, but image quality (at least at ISO 1600 and below) is not one of them. If you are not tied to Nikon, then it may be worth waiting a month or two to see if there is an anouncement from Canon.

[link=http://www.bentonvillemall.co.uk]link[/link] .... I wonder !!!

link .... I wonder !!!

Hmm interesting are they a Grey importer? Their warranty statements would indicate yes. Anyway they are still showing a bigger price gap than Len indicated £1,069 for the 5D £1,679 for the D700. so @ £600 or 56% more for the D700 over a 5D. Interesting times. Then factor in the lens costs. It is stil lwork waiting till christmas to see the full offerings and also to allow the initial price drops. £1,000 for a new 5D getting interesting.

Hmm interesting are they a Grey importer? Their warranty statements would indicate yes. Anyway they are still showing a bigger price gap than Len indicated

£1,069 for the 5D £1,679 for the D700. so @ £600 or 56% more for the D700 over a 5D. Interesting times. Then factor in the lens costs.

It is stil lwork waiting till christmas to see the full offerings and also to allow the initial price drops.

£1,000 for a new 5D getting interesting.

What I should have said is that a price war is good for consumers, so if Sony launch their camera in a similar price range it could be good for plenty of people. Nice to see an interesting Nikon, any bets on £1,500 by christmas?

What I should have said is that a price war is good for consumers, so if Sony launch their camera in a similar price range it could be good for plenty of people. Nice to see an interesting Nikon, any bets on £1,500 by christmas?

[quote]I've read reports that clearance is 'tight' on bodies (ie the D300) with a built in flash.[/quote] Hi Steve, From the 24mmPC instruction manual. [b]Important! [/b] "When the lens is mounted to a camera other than a D3, shift, tilt and / or revolve the lens with care. Failure to do so, may result in the lens scratching the camera body" It's a cracking lens on the D3. Hope this helps, Regards Tony

Quote:I've read reports that clearance is 'tight' on bodies (ie the D300) with a built in flash.


Hi Steve, From the 24mmPC instruction manual.

Important!
"When the lens is mounted to a camera other than a D3, shift, tilt and / or revolve the lens with care. Failure to do so, may result in the lens scratching the camera body"

It's a cracking lens on the D3.

Hope this helps, Regards Tony