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D800 or D800e

uganda 10 28 United Kingdom
29 Apr 2013 2:50PM
If money allowed - which would be preferred, esp. for travel & portrait/documentary work...

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keithh Plus
14 25.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
29 Apr 2013 3:34PM
the cheapest one
JohnParminter 11 1.3k 14 England
29 Apr 2013 4:10PM
the smallest one
scottishphototours 14 2.6k 2
29 Apr 2013 4:54PM
The D800.
GarethRobinson 11 1.0k 2 United Kingdom
29 Apr 2013 5:06PM
Never mind which of the pair, think more about portable storage if taking raw files.
cameracat 14 8.6k 61 Norfolk Island
29 Apr 2013 9:05PM
The most expensive one.....!!!

Never buy cheap you know it makes sense....Grin

Quote:think more about portable storage

Portable storage has moved on quite a bit in the last few years, New and exotic materials mean it is much lighter to carry, Plus for all you colour conscious snappers out there, It comes in all the colours of the rainbow, Well the Adobe RGB rainbow at least.

Memory cards have crashed through the 128Gb barrier, Again in an assortment of colours, So there is bound to be one that matches your kit bag/shirt/jacket/shoes etc etc.

LenShepherd 10 3.6k United Kingdom
29 Apr 2013 9:42PM
Slightly early days yet maybe but I anticipate no new DSLR cameras in 2014 with an AA filter.
When the D800 and D800e were launched the trade off between slightly higher resolution (it seems to be about 3% in the image file) and the increased risk of moire was largely unquantified.
12 months on with a camera from Pentax and 2 more from Nikon with no AA filter - the jury seems to have made its mind up moire is a none issue so dispense with an AA filter altogether rather than go the D800e route of reversing the normal AA effect.
With this in mind for me
1/ it would be the D800e now
2/ when the D800/D800e are replaced in perhaps 2015 my speculation is there will be only 1 version with no AA filter - and nothing to debate.
LenShepherd 10 3.6k United Kingdom
29 Apr 2013 9:56PM

Quote:Never mind which of the pair, think more about portable storage if taking raw files.

A WD Passport USB 3 2 GB is smaller than a LaCie rugged 500GB. I get 8x the speed and 4x the capacity for about the same price as my LaCie was 3 years ago.
richmowil Plus
9 352 2 England
30 Apr 2013 12:12AM
RavenTepes 8 226 United States
30 Apr 2013 6:24PM
D800. I investigated both versions, and honestly, whilst granted, the 800E is slightly sharper, its moire and anti-aliasing isn't worth the extra cash.
LenShepherd 10 3.6k United Kingdom
1 May 2013 7:30AM

Quote: the 800E is slightly sharper, its moire and anti-aliasing isn't worth the extra cash.

The question was if money allowed i.e. ignoring cost.
I do not disagree the UK price premium of about 20% for about 3-4% more file resolution (which implies about 10% more sensor resolution) is more than many want to pay.
Nick_w Plus
11 4.3k 99 England
1 May 2013 7:54AM
Are you really going to see a difference in say a typical A3print?
keithh Plus
14 25.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
1 May 2013 10:28AM
No...and not even on an A2 print.
1 May 2013 12:13PM
The resolution difference, if it exists at all (I still haven’t seen proof of that) is minuscule. Most comparisons I’ve seen have made the basic mistake of applying the same sharpening, which makes the D800E look slightly more detailed. But obviously anyone using the two cameras properly would apply more sharpening to the D800 image if they wanted high micro-contrast, since the D800 images can take more sharpening before artefacts appear. With appropriate sharpening in both cases the resolution advantage of the D800E is at best negligible.

Moiré, when it happens, is a greater problem, since it’s ferociously ugly and fixing it destroys detail on a much larger scale than the D800’s anti-aliasing filter does. And you can’t have it both ways: if you think you can correct moiré in Lightroom without detrimental loss of detail, then you’re really only saying you wouldn’t notice any resolution gain the D800E might provide.

Likewise, if you’re using anything but the best lenses you’re spending money in the wrong place if you’re seeking edge-to-edge sharpness.

My own view is that the D800E is a camera for suckers, and the trend to abolish anti-aliasing filters on new cameras is premature and marketing-driven. Information theory says any digital sampling system needs an anti-aliasing filter, which is why, after all, camera companies have hitherto added these costly things to their cameras.
mattw 14 5.2k 10 United Kingdom
2 May 2013 11:56AM
Speaking without any direct experience of the cameras on offer - for shooting Weddings, I would opt for the D800 (just in case moiré becomes a problem)

For landscape and travel, the D800E would be tempting... depending on the price premium.

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