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Dead British Troops Treated as Freight

ray1 13 546 1 England
2 Apr 2009 9:17PM
The bodies of the soldiers Murdered in Northern Ireland were flown home without ceremony. This has angered members of HM Forces: "British troops have spoken of their anger following the disclosure that the bodies of the two soldiers murdered by dissident republicans were shipped back to the UK as freight."

"We have been told that the soldiers were not allowed to have a ramp service because of political reasons. We were told the Government didn't want anything that would look like the Troubles had restarted.

"As far as we are concerned these soldiers were shot dead in uniform by terrorists and they should be treated in exactly the same way as if they were killed in Afghanistan. To send their bodies back to the UK as freight is outrageous."

When a person joins any branch of HM Forces they are effectively on duty 24/7/365.

The Government are asked to review the crass rules that allowed this to happen.

The Government are further requested to amend the rules on Ramp Ceremonies.

The petition can be found here link

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boony 11 978 3 United Kingdom
2 Apr 2009 9:22PM
this so tragic for the families involved its criminal. ive neevr understood why people join the army but those that do deserve so much more than they get in general from this governement is appauling. they should be literally be willing to eat their shi*t in return for what they do. petetion signed
Plossl 10 147 United Kingdom
2 Apr 2009 9:36PM
As an ex member of HM Forces I think somebody should be hauled over the coals for this I too have signed the petition
Sland 11 225 Scotland
2 Apr 2009 9:48PM
I too am ex services. However, my understanding is that the bodies were handed over to the families prior to being taken home and that it was not the MoD at fault.

However, I also know not to believe everything I read (unless it is an april fool) and consequently my info could be a bit wrong.
User_Removed 14 17.9k 8 Norway
2 Apr 2009 10:29PM
And me... 23yrs in the Royal Air Force - and if this is a true report, then I am disgusted. I have signed the petition also.
cameracat 14 8.6k 61 Norfolk Island
2 Apr 2009 10:54PM
Disgraceful...! Signed, Signatures over 6000 and rising.......!!!

What are they thinking of.
StrayCat 14 19.1k 3 Canada
2 Apr 2009 11:02PM
It's damn good to see you backing the troops, it really looks good. You have my sympathies, as do the families and friends of the troops. It's very sad.
peterkin 14 635 England
2 Apr 2009 11:07PM

SimplySimon 9 281 England
2 Apr 2009 11:29PM
signed. simon
SuziBlue 15 16.2k 10 Scotland
3 Apr 2009 11:38AM
If the facts are true then I too am horrified. Whatever one thinks of war or conflict, military deaths should be treated with dignity and respect. And by the same standard, so should non-military deaths.

Politics apart, the armed forces make a unique promise - to protect their country and their loved ones even if they lose their lives in doing so. The promises they make shouldn't be squandered or treated lightly. (OK so that last bit IS political).
SuziBlue 15 16.2k 10 Scotland
3 Apr 2009 12:00PM
Here's the Telegraph report of the story. To say they were off duty is insulting.

Telegraph story
keith selmes 14 7.3k 1 United Kingdom
3 Apr 2009 1:07PM
There is some fairly heated discussion over at ARRSSE
(Army Rumour Service), with a bit of inside info.
SuziBlue 15 16.2k 10 Scotland
3 Apr 2009 1:26PM
Hmmm .. interesting perspectives from everyone on that thread. It seems as though the two men's deaths were marked both in NI and in London - it's the freight bit that rankles with a lot of people. Wrapping someone in hermetically sealed coverings and bubble wrap and putting them in the hold of a commercial airline like luggage - well I'd get pretty upset if that was a relative of mine. Couldn't they spare a chopper or even a military plane?
Bellie 11 507
3 Apr 2009 1:37PM
Thats the way dead bodies arrive home all the time, as freight on commercial airliners. Done by funeral directors every day Sad well maybe not everyday.
Bellie 11 507
3 Apr 2009 1:43PM
But as for this case. As forces personnel I would have expected though that they could have gone to an RAF base by military transport at the very least.

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