Has Elfin Safety gone mad.


thewilliam2 2 1.3k
4 Jul 2019 10:17AM
The sad news about the death of the two railway workers reminded me of an incident that happened many decades ago. The company demanded that anybody using machine tools wear eye protection but they didn't replace the safety goggles when the lenses got hazy. One worker had been admonished for not wearing safety goggles and was ordered to use them on pain of dismissal, even though the lenses of the only available pair were translucent rather than transparent. Not long afterwards, the worker suffered a serious injury to his hand because he couldn't see very clearly.

The, admittedly expensive, ear defenders used for shooting will pass normal conversation but block the loud report from the firearm. Should these be issued to track-side workers?

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Snapper Plus
14 4.4k 3 Scotland
4 Jul 2019 11:16AM
Worth a read? (it's a pdf download of a report)
themak 6 1.0k Scotland
4 Jul 2019 11:55AM
Of course not. Most accidents are caused by a failure somewhere to implement proper procedures.
thewilliam2 2 1.3k
4 Jul 2019 12:14PM

Quote:Of course not. Most accidents are caused by a failure somewhere to implement proper procedures.


Or maybe to apply common-sense along with the written procedures? Can any written policy ever deliver safety on its own?
4 Jul 2019 12:49PM
Depends how well the safe methods of work have been communicated and whether they were understood. Common sense won’t apply with the HSE, they’ll need to see what was in place, why and how its communicated to workers (risk assessment and method statements), and whether those methods were breached in some way. You can scoff all you like about “elf n safety” but the law is there to protect workers and if you follow that law is not that onerous at all, it’s actually quite simple but it’s when companies think they can cut corners or don’t follow there own procedures that things go wrong and companies fail in there duty of care.

Or everything may be in place but a worker, for whatever reason, failed to follow guidance, Iím sure it will be revealed once the investigation is complete.
JJGEE 14 7.6k 18 England
4 Jul 2019 1:07PM
just a thought - perhaps the train should not have been there ?
themak 6 1.0k Scotland
4 Jul 2019 1:26PM
A live railway line is clearly a high risk environment and those workers would have received thorough training in safe systems of work for their tasks. One thing is certain, the ear defenders are not the problem - if that is the OP's suggestion. If they were needed, the din would drown out an approaching train anyway, and mitigation would have been needed for that. Closing the line is one measure, but not very popular.
Railcam 13 779 2 Scotland
4 Jul 2019 7:40PM
I suggest we stop speculating and wait for the report from RAIB (Rail Accident Investigation Bureau). They are very thorough and their reports are comprehensive. That will real everything we need to know about the unfortunate incident.

As well as the family of the deceased, how about some thought for the driver who could do nothing about it. It will live with him forever although he is probably blame free.


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