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is the panasonic lx 5 a good camera.


dazzaman 14 631 England
20 Feb 2011 5:29PM
Has anyone out there got a panasonic LX 5 and if so is it a worthy back up to a dslr.or is it as good as a dslr. A friend of mine said the image qualoty is as good as his 5 D. If not better.
Darren.

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sherlob Plus
14 3.1k 129 United Kingdom
20 Feb 2011 5:52PM
Have a play in your local Jessops or similar. On a recent forum post in regard to recommendations for a good compact several members gave it a sterling thumbs up (along with the LX3). I tried the LX5 and found that it wasn't very intutive to use - perhaps been a Canon man this was in part simply down to a difference in manufacturers, but I don't think so.

Rgds,

Adam

PS. Its hard to see how a compact sensor can match that of a 5D. Especially as you start to crank up the ISO.
dazzaman 14 631 England
20 Feb 2011 6:05PM
Thanks adam. The guy who told me this is simon clifford smith. He is a tutor and lecturer in photoshop and photography. And he calibrates monitors and printers for a living. Perhaps the iso is not as good as the 5 d but he said the image quality is as good. If not better, poss due to the lieca glass.
Cheers
Daz.
f8 16 9.2k 22 England
20 Feb 2011 6:31PM
Once you have learned to drive it it is a very good camera,it is capable of very good pictures.
My main crit. is no filter to protect the lens.
cameracat 16 8.6k 61 Norfolk Island
20 Feb 2011 8:08PM

Quote:A friend of mine said the image qualoty is as good as his 5 D. If not better


LOL....Grin

And of course you believe that......Smile

Try reading it this way around, To get the best from a Canon 5D, The photographer needs to know how to use it, Its not one of the easiest DSLRs to work with.

If both cameras where in the hands of a competent photographer, My money would be on the 5D everytime......Smile


Quote:he said the image quality is as good. If not better, poss due to the lieca glass


If this is an exact quote from the man in question, Then he is a " Numpty ", I really don't care what he does for a living, Or what he claims to be expert in, He's still a numpty....Sad

Wink
MikeRC 15 3.6k United Kingdom
20 Feb 2011 8:12PM

Quote:If this is an exact quote from the man in question, Then he is a " Numpty ", I really don't care what he does for a living, Or what he claims to be expert in, He's still a numpty....


...or maybe a guy with a Panasonic LX5 for sale Smile
guidoa 18 1.4k United Kingdom
20 Feb 2011 8:19PM
I dont have the LX5, but the LX3 which has the same Summicron lens altho only 24-60 in 35mm terms. It takes some getting used to but the quality of the image is quite remarkable when compared with other compacts, but I can not see how you can compare it with a 5D, its like comparing apples and pears.
sherlob Plus
14 3.1k 129 United Kingdom
20 Feb 2011 8:56PM

Quote:Perhaps the iso is not as good as the 5 d but he said the image quality is as good. If not better, poss due to the lieca glass.


You can't really seperate the two concepts - picture quality is variable dependant on ISO. On a compact you have a much higher pixel density than you do on a full frame SLR - this means that the signal from each pixel (or sensal if you prefer) needs to be amplified to a greater degree - hence it produces more noise. Crank up the ISO the more the amplification to the signal - the worse the noise.

I think cameracat makes a valid point in regards to the 5D. Also consider that the 5D is intended to give more control (e.g. depth of field and focal length). Which brings me to another question: what do you mean by back-up camera? No compact will give you the creative control of your SLR. If you need a back-up that maintains this control than you need a spare SLR body. If you mean that you want a light walk-about camera then I don't see an issue. Its a top end compact with a good reputation, but before you buy take a long look at the competition. The Canon S95, and G12 are both excellent (and a great deal easier to use imho); Nikon do equivilant models too (I can't remember the model numbers). If I recall correctly I think Fuji have just released a new top end model too...
dazzaman 14 631 England
20 Feb 2011 9:04PM
cameracat and mike rc ive done photography for about 15 years now, i do know about photography, SO PLEASE DONT TRY AND TAKE THE PISS, i was asking a simple question!!!!!!!!!. so if you cant answer a simple question without taking the piss. DONT BOTHER.Tongue
KingBee Plus
14 540 2 Scotland
20 Feb 2011 9:13PM
Don't know anything about the LX5, but I love my LX3 to bits, and it takes great images. If I had one reservation, it's Panasonic's RAW software, which is a pain. I always shoot in RAW, but having to convert everything to TIFF before I can upload to PS is a friggin' nuisance. And the TIFFs are huge! So much so, I'm tempted just to shoot JPEG, but that somehow goes against the grain, if you'll excuse the pun .....

Anyway, as much as I love the LX3, I'd have to question even the remotest suggestion that it (or rather, the LX5) could even begin to approach the features set and overall quality of the 5D. Not that I have the latter, you understand - but I do have a 40D, and the Pana doesn't touch it. But neither is it intended to: think of the LX3/5 as a great walk-around with RAW capability, and, as compacts go, it'll blow your socks off. And leave it at that.
peterjones 18 5.0k 1 United Kingdom
20 Feb 2011 10:33PM
don't worry Darren about people taking the mick; they do it from the safe sancity of their computers; very few of them would be man enough to do it face to face.

I am interested in this thread as I am considering an LX5 also though I would be surprised if it compared well to a DSLR akin to the 5D. I guess in the end it is up to the person behind the camera.

Peter.
dazzaman 14 631 England
21 Feb 2011 9:59AM
thanks peter
daz
cameraman 17 227 1 England
21 Feb 2011 12:26PM

Quote:Has anyone out there got a panasonic LX 5 and if so is it a worthy back up to a dslr.or is it as good as a dslr. A friend of mine said the image qualoty is as good as his 5 D. If not better.
Darren.



I think the first thing for an enthusiast to realize is that a high end compact is not meant to replace a complete dslr kit but to compliment it. A compact can be the always-with-you, go everywhere camera carried in a pocket and capable of extremely fine results.

It does have its limitations; just a single lens is no competition for a comprehensive selection of lenses and a dslr. The shallow depth of field available with a long lens is not repeatable on a compact with its inherent huge depth of field. It is also more nuisance than it is worth to try to use filters on a compact. But carrying filters also defeats the idea of travelling with just a camera.

I must admit that I do not possess a Panasonic LX5 or a Canon 5D. But I do have an LX3 and a Canon 1D complete with a range of ĎLí lenses. I rarely print above A4 size and at that size I challenge anyone to tell me with certainty which camera was used to produce which print. Maybe at A3 or A2 differences would show, but I donít know when.


Quote:No compact will give you the creative control of your SLR.


Apart from the lens limitations detailed above, I canít see any further creative controls not being available. Aperture, shutter speed and ISO are all individually selectable on the LX3/5 and choice of viewpoint is just as subjective. If I have missed something that you can see please let me know.

Like other high end compact cameras, the LX3/5 is a superb instrument which can produce stunning results. (see GREYHERONís portfolio for proof of quality). If I am going to a place I have not visited before or I just want to go for a walk-about almost invariably I reach for my LX3. For the more specialist photos the 1D is the camera of choice. But I still take my compact as well.

Finally, how many dslrs show depth of field for the selected lens/aperture combination. Not many I would guess, certainly not the 1D. But the LX3 does.

Michael.
Phil_D 13 81 Scotland
21 Feb 2011 12:54PM
I have an LX5, which I bought as a 'carry everywhere', so that I didn't have to lug around my SLR all the time.

It does have limitations, which have taken a little getting used to. Mainly for me, it has been the depth of field - even at f2, unless you are focusing on on object very close, the depth of field is not as shallow as you will be used to with your SLR. As the senser is very small, the 'effective' wide angle focal length of 24mm, is in fact about 3mm, and the depth of field accordingly massive.

Image quality is pretty impressive, but not in low light, where shadow detail seems to go very blotchy.

I would agree with Sherlob in terms of intuitiveness, but I genuinely put this down to the fact that it is 'not what I'm used to', and I think the more you use it the more intuitive it gets.

Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the camera, and it had proved definitely 'fit for purpose' for me.

Phil.
petemasty 11 155 England
21 Feb 2011 1:16PM
I have the Leica version of the Panasonic LX5 (Leica D Lux 5) They are one and the same, but I plumbed for the Leica cos I got the software and an extended warranty in the price. It is an excellent compact camera. The image quality is amazing for a compact. I also have aCanon 7D and would say the 7D image quality is better than the compact, discernably so when you zoom up beyond 100%. That said, if you are looking for a pocketable camera that gives great image quality without the need to lug about an SLR and kit then I would highly recommend it. But! I would stress it aint really a replacement for a DSLR. You wont regret buying one.

I've printed out A4 prints from the DLux5 and the quality betwen the same print size for the 7d is indistinguishable to the naked eye (well ,my eyes anyway).

This is my personal opinion based on my experience with the camera. i had a Canon s90 which also has excellent image quality for a camera of its size.

I hope this helps

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