Kit lens old v new


4 Aug 2019 11:34AM
i have a d80 and a d3300 both with kit lens what i would like to know is the the d80 lens better or same iq as d3300 lens

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thewilliam2 2 1.3k
4 Aug 2019 2:30PM
Nikon has made at least 5 different versions of the 18-55 kit lens and I've owned 2 of these types.

A magazine editor friend tipped me off about the qualities of the VRII version, which is an optical marvel and it focuses to about one-third of life-size. None of the versions are bad.

Be aware that the kit lenses aren't designed for hard use. They need to be treated with care and must never be used in the rain.

If you can afford it and they do go quite cheaply these days, go for the 17-55mm f2.8 which is optically excellent and built like a brick privy.
justin c 15 5.0k 36 England
4 Aug 2019 2:36PM
Why don't you take a photo with each and see for yourself which is the better lens?????
d80 not in use problem with card door
thewilliam2 2 1.3k
4 Aug 2019 4:18PM

Quote:Why don't you take a photo with each and see for yourself which is the better lens?????


Most of us would read trusted reviews: it's a lot cheaper that way!
justin c 15 5.0k 36 England
4 Aug 2019 8:23PM

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Quote:Why don't you take a photo with each and see for yourself which is the better lens?????


Most of us would read trusted reviews: it's a lot cheaper that way!




If you bothered to read the post properly you would see that the equipment is already owned, hence my suggestion to test the lenses!!!!!
LenShepherd 11 4.0k United Kingdom
5 Aug 2019 8:01AM

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Most of us would read trusted reviews: it's a lot cheaper that way!




If you bothered to read the post properly you would see that the equipment is already owned, hence my suggestion to test the lenses!!!!!


I agree with you, but also for another reason.
Some of us do not rely on "trusted reviews" because those that can be trusted in an all round sense do not exist.
Many reviews are little more than a photograph of a never in the real world 1000 :1 contrast chart.
This type of test has very little to do with how individual users use a lens.
This thread has already correctly identified that although the latest version of the kit lens is optically good it is not substantial and not suitable for use in the rain - and the 17- 55 is built like a tank.
Forthright but 100% on the bulls eye feedback unlikely to be mentioned in a "trusted" review.
There are the size, weight and maximum aperture differences which should be obvious to the OP who owns both lenses.
thanks for replies have taken the lens from d80 and will test on d3300
thewilliam2 2 1.3k
5 Aug 2019 10:38AM

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:Why don't you take a photo with each and see for yourself which is the better lens?????


Most of us would read trusted reviews: it's a lot cheaper that way!




If you bothered to read the post properly you would see that the equipment is already owned, hence my suggestion to test the lenses!!!!!



I've owned a couple of those kit lenses and was surprised by two things: the optical performance when new and the lack of durability compared with the "pro" lenses that I'd normally use. These reviews will tell the OP about the performance of a new lens.

Is there any need to do a new test? Just look closely at pictures taken over the time that the lens has been owned and compare recent pix with those when the lens was new. Has there been any drop in image quality? If the lens was bought second-hand, does it perform as well as the review?
JackAllTog Plus
10 5.7k 58 United Kingdom
5 Aug 2019 1:29PM
As the D3300 is 8 years newer that he D80 i'd assume the the 18-55mm lens on the D3300 is the better lens. ( Unless the kit lens is the same on both)
- Do either of the lenses have VR - e.g. Nikon AF-P 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 G VR DX Lens
justin c 15 5.0k 36 England
5 Aug 2019 10:49PM

Quote:Is there any need to do a new test?


Yes there is. I would imagine with cheaper lenses there could well be differences in the optical quality depending on whether you get a good copy or a bad copy. Therefore, better to do your own tests, with your own equipment and judge the results with your own eyes.
You don't need to read reviews to know that a professional lens costing considerably more than a kit lens is likely to be more durable. Common sense would tell you that.
thewilliam2 2 1.3k
6 Aug 2019 10:42AM
Doesn't the OP already own these lenses and presumably already uses them both. Why not start by looking at the existing pictures taken with each?

The only times that I've ever "tested" a lens was when I suspected a fault.


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