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Lies, damned lies, statistics and Canon


Perdiccas 15 90 Holy See (Vatican City State)
6 Mar 2007 2:07PM
An interesting article here.

The author notes:

"as for why the majority of the camera failures seen on this trip were Canon, the answer is because 85% of the trip's members were shooting Canon. Simple statistics.

Nevertheless the number of cameras that succumbed to rain damage was surprising, especially 1D MKII and 1Ds MKII bodies, which are typically very water resistant. I have no explanation for the high attrition rate, but i know that a new camera rain cover is now on my shopping list."


Simple statistics indeed but still a worryingly high failure rate in such a small group of users.
strawman 17 22.2k 16 United Kingdom
6 Mar 2007 2:15PM
Interesting. It does raise a question of people expectation and how they used the cameras. Also to my understanding camera with seals are water resistant not water proof. After many years designing products to prevent ingress of fluids I find it hard to believe that cameras are truly water proof.

For example the fact that the lower cost Canon's faired better is probably down to the fact that people did not expect them to be water sealed and so took measures to protect them.

I know my 300D in its expensive custom made Tesco's polly bag water proofing has survived well, though I did once have a lens suffer a failure to stop down. A little bit of time drying out solved it (probably to its life detriment).

also the 75% Leica failure is interesting.
afunkyname 15 354
6 Mar 2007 2:16PM
outrageous. bring back public executions i say.
croberts 17 2.2k 8 Ireland
6 Mar 2007 2:16PM
why is it worrying?? Do you often take your 1ds11 out in the rain for 1 1/2 hours?

My 1 series cameras have spent a large part of their working lives in terrible weather. They've never missed a beat, even at times where my supposedly waterproof clothes have let me get soaked through to the skin.
stevekhart 15 4.5k 3 United Kingdom
6 Mar 2007 2:34PM
Got to feel sorry for the bloke who lost his luggage on the way and had only 3 rolls of film for the whole trip Wink
welshwizard 15 106 Wales
6 Mar 2007 2:34PM
100% reliability for the Pentax... Wink) and the Mamiya's

But I do feel so sad for the poor Mamiya 7 user who had only 3 films for the trip - 30 frames - OUCH!!
JonR 14 26
6 Mar 2007 2:38PM
My friend gradually lowered a 1ds Mkii into a bog for a shot. Only realised after he'd got the shot that half the camera had been submerged for about a minute.

It stopped working soon afterwards. Luckily it was his picture agencies. Don't think they were best pleased.
joolsb 17 27.1k 38 Switzerland
6 Mar 2007 2:39PM

Quote:3 films for the trip - 30 frames - OUCH!!



Yes but I bet he made each one count...

Unlike Reichman - 7000 frames for just 92 printable shots??? Did a penguin accidentally sit on his shutter release or what?
croberts 17 2.2k 8 Ireland
6 Mar 2007 2:41PM

Quote:Did a penguin accidentally sit on his shutter release or what?


ROFLMAO!!
culturedcanvas 16 4.7k 59 United Kingdom
6 Mar 2007 2:42PM
Maybe he has high standards Smile
SuziBlue 18 16.2k 10 Scotland
6 Mar 2007 2:56PM
High standards ...

.. that's about 1 good shot per the equivalent of three 36-exp films.
Big Bri 20 16.7k United Kingdom
6 Mar 2007 3:50PM
Well, my daughter kicked my 5D downstairs on Sunday (with a 24-70L and 550EX attached) and it's all still working fine. Who needs a 1D ? Tongue
strawman 17 22.2k 16 United Kingdom
6 Mar 2007 3:57PM
How is your daughter recovering?
keithh 17 25.8k 33 Wallis And Futuna
6 Mar 2007 3:57PM
My old 1Ds has been under the sea on two occasions and still works just fine to this day.

and 7000 for 92 is careless to say the least. One assumes he was shooting a lot of penguins.
stevekhart 15 4.5k 3 United Kingdom
6 Mar 2007 4:05PM

Quote:My old 1Ds has been under the sea on two occasions

Still got those concrete boots, Keith?

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