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MydarlingRed Avatar
25 Dec 2020 11:59PM
How do I reconcile older mtf graphs with more modern ones say to compare Olympus 14-150mm and 12-45mm?
saltireblue Avatar
saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 88 Norway
26 Dec 2020 7:59AM
Hi Catriona - I've asked our equipment editor, who carries out a lot of these lens tests and writes the reviews, to answer your question here in the thread - please be patient, it is a long weekend.Smile
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LenShepherd 15 4.7k United Kingdom
26 Dec 2020 9:17AM

Quote:How do I reconcile older mtf graphs with more modern ones say to compare Olympus 14-150mm and 12-45mm?

A query from me - do you mean the manufacturers MTF - usually testing the lens in isolation without a body attached - or an MTF 50 graph which measures results with a lens attached to a body? An MTF 50 result is usually used for current lens tests on this site.

Olympus MTF information is at https://download.aws.olympus.eu/consumer/brochures/cameras/Lenses_LineUp_2019-04_Brochure_web_EN.pdf - and can reasonably be used to compare one lens with another from the same same manufacturer.

MTF 50 graph results partly depend on the MP of the body used for the test.

MTF is only one source of information useful for determening overall likely lens performance.
MydarlingRed Avatar
26 Dec 2020 10:57AM

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Quote:How do I reconcile older mtf graphs with more modern ones say to compare Olympus 14-150mm and 12-45mm?

A query from me - do you mean the manufacturers MTF - usually testing the lens in isolation without a body attached - or an MTF 50 graph which measures results with a lens attached to a body? An MTF 50 result is usually used for current lens tests on this site.

Olympus MTF information is at https://download.aws.olympus.eu/consumer/brochures/cameras/Lenses_LineUp_2019-04_Brochure_web_EN.pdf - and can reasonably be used to compare one lens with another from the same same manufacturer.

MTF 50 graph results partly depend on the MP of the body used for the test.

MTF is only one source of information useful for determening overall likely lens performance.



I mean the graphs on the ephotozine site in the ephotozine reviews. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
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LenShepherd 15 4.7k United Kingdom
27 Dec 2020 7:36AM

Quote:

I mean the graphs on the ephotozine site in the ephotozine reviews. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.



Thanks for clarifying this detail.

The results in an MTF graph similar to the ones used at ephotozine make it difficult to compare one result to another - unless obtained using the same camera body.

Results from a manufacturers "optical MTF" not using a body are relevant to any lens from that manufacturer.
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joshwa Plus
13 927 1 United Kingdom
27 Dec 2020 11:06AM
MydarlingRed Avatar
27 Dec 2020 1:24PM
Thanks for the article but it doesn’t answer my query.

To be more simplistic what score of lw/ph corresponds to poor, fair, good, excellent as neither appears to directly correspond to the other?

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joshwa Plus
13 927 1 United Kingdom
29 Dec 2020 9:59AM
Regarding the 14-150mm review:
https://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-m-zuiko-digital-ed-14-150mm-f-4-5-6-lens-review-22983

This was tested on a 16mp Panasonic Lumix G3, and when tested the figures for MTF were deemed to be "Excellent" as shown in the graph. Unfortunately, we do not have the actual figures available, as that was not how we displayed our test results at the time.

We reviewed the 12-45mm lens with our new review procedure, where we display both the MTF figures from Imatest, and the description of whether it is "Excellent" or "Good" in the text above the graph:

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-m-zuiko-digital-ed-12-45mm-f-4-0-pro-review-34599/performance

This was tested on a 20mp Panasonic Lumix G9 so is not directly comparable.

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