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My Generation

monkeygrip 9 574 6 England
22 Dec 2012 11:41PM
Photography is one of those fantastic interests that includes all generations so I thought this would be a great place to get some opinions on your own, previous and future generations.

An example, I am 40 and I think we have had it easy really the younger generation get a tough time because they live in an age where 24 hour media portrays them as binge drinking hoodies all roaming in gangs.

Binge drinking was as bad when I was young but there was less focus on data collection and targets.

In the 50s and 60s young people used to meet annually for a battle based only upon the kind of music you liked.

Skin heads in the 80s have we forgot about them?

Those in power are from a generation that did more drugs, drank more booze and had more unprotected sex than any generation slightly hypocritical don't you think?

Remember this is light hearted but I would love to hear your thoughts young and old.

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rambler Plus
9 951 16 England
23 Dec 2012 12:08AM
I'm 66 and I'm still too pissed to remember Tongue
monstersnowman 12 1.7k 1 England
23 Dec 2012 3:10AM
I actually drunk as a teenager as many did but not the sort of high alcohol drinks that are available now .. And from my perspective as an ex police officer, drug related incidents in the late 80's and 90's were not anywhere near as prevalent in youth as now. Also knife and gun crime was very rare in those years but more prevalent now. I am only going off my experience of crime in Hull as an officer and Greater Manchester as a teenager (always quite a deprived area) .... I do feel teenagers now face adult influences far earlier and have cheap access to stronger substances so this explains why I see gangs of drunken youths on drugs/strong cider in my quiet small town when as a teenager they really weren't as common (early 80's) in the built up deprived area I was brought up in which was quite rough. I speak only of my own experiences and am quite honest and objective about these recollections and current experiences.
Paul Morgan 16 19.1k 6 England
23 Dec 2012 4:19AM
I drank in my teens as well, but not on the streets and nothing really strong, just those small bottles of Cherry brandy or Babycham at family parties.

Illegal drugs and highs, I experimented a little in my late teens, but to do so it would be at a music festival and only once or twice a year and only because they were out on open sale.

I`m often criticized for not being strict enough with our kids, I try to give them as much freedom as I had as a kid, but its not easy.
scrimmy Plus
9 389 5 Scotland
23 Dec 2012 10:09AM
If I thought my kids got up to even half of what I did...think I'd have a heart attack. I suppose the question is did I get lucky with them..or are they just smarter at not getting caught. Smile
thewilliam 9 6.1k
23 Dec 2012 11:07AM
When I was a Scout in the 1960s, we all carried a sheath knife as part of the uniform and, on a 24 hour hike, the patrol leader would have a hand axe attached to his belt. It never ocurred to us that knives and axes could be used to hurt people.

Lads who got drunk and disorderly woud be arrested and in the police cells until they appeared in Court on Monday morning. The fine was usually painful so drunkennes wasn't universal as it seems to be nowadays.

We had a lot more freedom to roam. My wife took an unaccompanied half-hour bus ride to school when she was 3 and her elder sister was 6. In rural Cornwall, kids were quite safe. Two of my nephews had never gone anywhere on their own until they started at university.

Back in those days, we didn't know our human rights, but then we didn't seem to need them.
puertouk 6 1.1k 17 United Kingdom
23 Dec 2012 11:17AM
You did not get the buy one get one free offers back in my days. Today's mentality is to get the young drinkers into bars and to knock it back. Young kids out of their minds, as they mix their drinks. Back in my day, it was a few pints of bitter, a packet of crisps and a few games of snooker at the local club. Yes, we went out after the girls at the weekend in the nightclubs and had a few drinks, but you did not see people coming out paralytic and unable to stand up. Yes, they were people who were drunk, but not to the extent they seem to get today. You only have to look at programmes on TV. I blame certain pubs for encouraging young people to drink far too much, especially spirits.
widtink 5 406 2 Scotland
23 Dec 2012 12:04PM
Kids will be kids no matter what generation they are from (thank god) but i do agree the drinking culture these days has changed for the worse particularly among girlsSad

davereet Plus
13 376 United Kingdom
23 Dec 2012 12:24PM
I think the advent of Alchopops was the start of the slide. When I was young (quite a while ago now) we had to pretend we liked the taste of drink and by the time we had acquired the taste we were older and had slightly more sense.
Plus the fact there was not much money about in the early sixties.
I think alchopops are a cynical ploy by the drinks industry to draw in younger folk with sweet and Moorish drinks.

Or am I an old cynic?
keith selmes 14 7.3k 1 United Kingdom
23 Dec 2012 12:54PM
I don't watch 24 hour media, so I don't know what I'm supposed to think.
From experience, I would say young people now have a much easier time, although they probably don't know it.
But it's very hard to make an exact comparison as so many things have changed. Life in some ways is easier in the UK and probably for most europeans, americans, australian etc., but in some ways more restrictive.

I came in after WW2, very lucky I missed that, but just in time for rationing, id cards, and austerity. There was a massive housing shortage, plenty of bomb sites, tank traps still on the beaches. To get a home of our own, my parents moved form London to Devon, where we had a simple stone thatched cottage with no main services at all. No electricity, no piped water and no sewer system. Younger people have a hard time believing that. Children weren't allowed to play with matches but they did have to learn how to use them, how to light fires and oil lamps and so on. My father taught me to shoot with an air pistol when I was 10. Some people think this must have been idyllic, I mainly remember it as being uncomfortable and cold, but it was balanced of with more freedom to roam in a big garden and around the lanes and fields. Just remember the pistol was for shooting rats, and when a chicken stopped laying, we killed it and ate it. I think a lot of youngsters now would have difficulty with that much reality. They are sheltered from it, and have the luxury of being fussy about what they eat and what they wear. Many now would be disgusted at wearing real animal skins, but we didn't have the option of faux fur or fleece.

As time went on, life became easier, and we moved into the era of car ownership and traffic jams, TV and couch potatoing, hot and cold running water, and it's very hard to make a sensible comparison between what we've gained and what we've lost. But on the whole I think most people now have it a lot easier, and the younger ones mostly don't have much clue as to how much easier.

Certainly I have been aware most of my life that my parents and grandparents had a tougher time with the 19th century upstairs-downstairs culture, WW1, the depression and WW2. Perhaps since then we have been on a trend without such obvious extremes, so it is not so easy to see how things have changed. Something an older person said to me, if we do get some really hard times now, it's the youngsters who'll feel it, because they've never known it before.
teepee 15 1.3k England
23 Dec 2012 12:56PM
most of us had a respect for our parents and authority. We all thought it was wrong not to have a job and not many looked for handouts. Now days there are an awful lot who think the opposite!
cambirder 14 7.2k England
23 Dec 2012 1:08PM

Quote:most of us had a respect for our parents and authority. We all thought it was wrong not to have a job and not many looked for handouts. Now days there are an awful lot who think the opposite!

Respect has to be earned there can be no automatic right to it just because you are a parent or in a position of authority. I know it is a lot harder for my children's generation than it was for us baby boomers who I have to confess had it very easy compared with our parents generation, and with some justification the younger generation feel they are having to pay for the "luck" of those of us who did all right out of the good times.
keith selmes 14 7.3k 1 United Kingdom
23 Dec 2012 1:19PM

Quote:In the 50s and 60s young people used to meet annually for a battle

They had some real ones as well.
These were in the era of National Service, they weren't all volunteers.

Korean war 1950-1953
Malayan Emergency 1948-1960
Suez canal, 1956
Mau Mau revolt, 1952-1960

Thankfully, national service ended, Harold Wilson said no thank you to the Vietnam business, and the cold war never quite kicked off, so Britain was able to get on with the Swinging Sixties. We'd never had it so good. I went mildly intelectual with cords and suede shoes, then into flowered pattern shirts, sideburns, and deep raspberry red flared cords. A bit embarassing when you look back on it.
mdpontin 13 6.0k Scotland
23 Dec 2012 1:40PM

Quote:We had a lot more freedom to roam. My wife took an unaccompanied half-hour bus ride to school when she was 3 and her elder sister was 6.

Although not from quite as young as that, perhaps, going off by myself or with a friend by train to the nearest big town some 11 or so miles away was something which raised no eyebrows. I don't recall that my parents raised any concerns at all. I think most people at that time (at least in that place) felt that the risks to unaccompanied children were fairly low. At the time, I lived on the south coast of England and the nearby big town was Bournemouth. And to complete the context, this would have been in the 1970's.
monkeygrip 9 574 6 England
23 Dec 2012 1:54PM
I think we are known as the play station generation and I have to say apart from being jelous of the music scene in the 60s I wouldn't swap being a young man in the 90s for any era.

I would sneak into the quiet little pub in my home town at 16 for a pint and learnt the art of socialising with a beer I agree the kids seem to think its all about how wrecked you can get. Although a possible reason is the cost of a night out these days two for one sounds good when it costs 4 a pint.

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