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cats_123 Plus
17 5.0k 30 Northern Ireland
22 Mar 2017 11:59AM
I don't have any flights booked that would fall under the new security rules, but would be very concerned about the safety of my equipment in hold baggage....I've been airside and seen how they treat luggage, have heard hearsay of items being stolen..(used to be a big problem at Heathrow)...will you be happy enough to pack it in your suitcase, will you have to pay for an additional bag, or excess weight or will you buy specialised baggage just for your gear???????

IanYorke 7 30 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2017 12:45PM
I travel frequently and it is just a case of making sure you do your research and plan accordingly. It is also wise to recognise that once the regulations are in place you have no choice in this matter. What precautions you take will be a personal decision. Good cases with quality locks (TSA approved if you are visiting / transiting USA) will be a must and adequate "packaging", as well as good insurance. Now might be the time to break out the old laptop for international travel Smile

To help understanding remember it only affects flights from (or transiting) the following airports:

Queen Alia International, Amman, Jordan
Cairo International Airport, Egypt
Ataturk Airport, Istanbul, Turkey
King Abdulaziz International, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
King Khalid International, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Kuwait International Airport
Mohammed V International, Casablanca, Morocco
Hamad International, Doha, Qatar
Dubai International, United Arab Emirates
Abu Dhabi International, United Arab Emirates


Yes, I will be greatly inconvenienced, and I might choose for myself to accept the risk, but such personal choices are not feasible for air travel. So basically we need to "suck it up", and appreciate what the intelligence services are doing for us - keeping us safe. Remember we are only in this position because of the terrorists?

Ian
saltireblue Plus
10 11.6k 72 Norway
22 Mar 2017 12:53PM
I was under the impression that the restrictions only affected direct flights to the US from those airports listed? Or has it been extended now to include all destinations?
Peter_West 9 258 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2017 12:54PM
Plus I'm led to believe its only on inward flights from these Countries
cats_123 Plus
17 5.0k 30 Northern Ireland
22 Mar 2017 1:09PM
Here we go

Hand luggage restrictions at UK airports

Looks like `Cameras' might have escaped the restrictions?
Kako 14 170
22 Mar 2017 1:47PM
Cameras are included on the US Department of Homeland Security list of banned items so will almost certainly be included on the UK banned list. These security diktats tend to go global very quickly...I fully expect these rules to be implemented globally within days if past trends are any guide.
22 Mar 2017 3:23PM
It seems that the UK restrictions are less draconian than those dreamt up by the USA and DO NOT apply to cameras, only laptops, tablets and e-readers above a certain size. Full details are available at:

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/additional-airline-security-measures-on-some-routes-travelling-to-the-uk

www.gov.uk/government/news/additional-hand-luggage-restrictions-on-some-flights-to-the-uk

www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/electronic-devices-and-electrical-items
Ross_D 7 841 1 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2017 4:39PM
There is also the possibility of damage to electronic equipment due to condensation The hold of all civil aircraft is pressurised but not necessarily heated to the same extent as the main passenger cabins . This means that baggage/equipment in the hold can remain at very low temperatures. Subsequently, after landing and the baggage is removed from the hold there can be a considerable increase in temperature.... this can cause condensation especially if landing in a warm/humid environment. Anybody who has been to Florida or places with a similar environment will know all about condensation !
collywobles 16 4.1k 10 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2017 5:00PM
I think I'd prefer to get on a safe flight regardless of equipment in the hold.....
keith selmes 17 7.4k 1 United Kingdom
22 Mar 2017 7:52PM

I picked up this news from an aviation mailshot where the commenters are somewhat concerned about lithium ion batteries in cargo holds
"a new Homeland Security Department (DHS) electronics ban could see an increased risk from lithium battery-ignited fires in the cargo holds of their aircraft, according to two battery and aircraft safety experts"

Aviation Daily
Big Bri 19 16.7k United Kingdom
22 Mar 2017 8:42PM
Well I'm off to Istanbul for a few days over my birthday and was planning on taking a couple of DSLRs and a few lenses, but might just take my G12 now Sad
StrayCat 17 19.1k 3 Canada
23 Mar 2017 5:32AM
It isn't, and hasn't for a long time, been worth the hassle to travel by air. I retired over 13 years ago as an airline pilot, after 40 years, and I haven't travelled since, despite having unlimited free passes for my wife and I almost anywhere in the world. Looking back, it's difficult to realise how many freedoms we've lost.
Ross_D 7 841 1 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2017 10:43AM
I think the dangers of flying are somewhat exaggerated. I seem to remember reading that you have a 1 in 4.2 million chance of being killed/injured due to a commercial flight accident....compare this with the 180, 000 casualties (of which nearly 1,900 were deaths) on the UK roads last year and it puts it into perspective.

What I hate is all that faffing around at the airport...........you arrive 2-3hrs early, you then queue to check in your luggage, queue for security then after dodging the overpriced DF shops, you eventually queue at the boarding gate. Then, when you finally get on board, you get stuck in the aisle behind some moron trying to stuff his oversized bag into the overhead locker which is already crammed with oversized bags (why do they allow oversized bags onto the flight anyway ???). Then, when you land, repeat the above but in reverse order !

Being an old 'un (like Straycat) I remember the good old days when you just pitched up at the airport, checked your baggage and strolled through the airport and boarded your Vickers Viscount/Boeing 707 ( smokers at the rear of the cabin I seem to remember !!)..... how times have changed.

Rant over............... (all that said, I'm flying to the US in October Sad)
Ross_D 7 841 1 United Kingdom
23 Mar 2017 10:50AM

Quote:(all that said, I'm flying to the US in October Sad)


I should have added .....if they let me in Wink
chensuriashi Plus
14 333 18 England
23 Mar 2017 11:50AM
HI I am going on 1st may and needed to get a ESTA visa waiver for my wife and myself, another hidden customer rip off from the Americans as they say that being a UK passport holder you don't need a visa to travel through the USA just to connect, but I don't want to arrive as the US passport control without one and be refused entry.
Also the travel insurance us well over priced for my wife, now over 71, we are going to NZ change through Los Angeles it is cheaper that way than via the Far East, and I thought safer...Hmm....
This computer ban is good news for people who sell computers to airlines, as airlines will, in the short term, buy some for first class passengers who really need to catch up on work on flights, then move to have a PC interface in the entertainment screen, with a USB and a mouse+ keyboard for interested passengers...But I am I correct in thinking I have seen roll up keyboards somewhere already, and I have seen USB s in seats too....?

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