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Parliament Looking at Photographer's Rights in Public Places


KenTaylor 16 3.1k 2 United Kingdom
25 Mar 2008 11:03AM

Quote:My one's a Lib-Dem, but no sign of him supporting it. Email sent!

Same with me.
Ken
looboss 13 3.1k 7 United Kingdom
25 Mar 2008 11:13AM
Most politicians wont as they too have been taken in by this latests government rouse to fool us into paying more taxes for improved security, if they are so concerned why not ban all street photography including camera phones? get rid Google Earth and why not impose a curfew on the population? with special travel permits? the way this is going it wont be long before we are at this stage by then it will be too late to protest.

Its already a police state and we don't even know it!
Cephus 15 2.6k England
25 Mar 2008 11:22AM
I sent an Email to my MP, he hasn't signed and he hasn't replied, but then the Fat Cat is standing down at the next election!
Britman 14 1.7k England
26 Mar 2008 11:41PM
MP emailed, mind I didn't vote for him.


don't expect him to sign as his a fully paid up member of the new labour dictatorship.
uggyy 14 2.1k 9 Scotland
27 Mar 2008 12:19AM

Quote:Its already a police state and we don't even know it!


No its not Wink

We don't have the most video camera surveillance in the world per head in the UK.

Duh wait a min, we do !!!


Quote:There are up to 4.2m CCTV cameras in Britain - about one for every 14 people.


BBC 2nd Nov 2006

One wonders what its up to now Smile
looboss 13 3.1k 7 United Kingdom
27 Mar 2008 12:26AM
All this gearing up for is to implement a special overpriced permit/id card from the administration (as in stealth tax) for photographers to prove that we are not terrorists when we get stopped by the different governing bodies, be it security, police or the local traffic warden! Under the banner of making the streets a safer place and combating terrorism.

Who is willing to bet that is the conclusion this will come to eventually after much deliberation by the caring government that rules us?

Yes my friends you read it here first! Smile
Paul Morgan 19 19.5k 6 England
27 Mar 2008 12:32AM
Just been looking at a video connected to all this and have no idea if its been posted before.

here

What of the rights of those that donít want to be photographed in public places?
andytvcams 18 10.4k 1 United Kingdom
27 Mar 2008 12:40AM
Interesting to see how the plastic policeman dealt with the situation.

It wont be to long before all police will be issued with video helmet cams.

Robocop is just around the corner.

Quote:The Met already have a set of "guidelines" for when dealing with the press and media, it would seem like common sense to ask the police to adjust a set of guidelines in respect of "public" and advise the guys on the ground what to do?

Guidelines for Metropolitan Police Service staff on dealing with media reporters, press photographers and television crews

Members of the media are not only members of the public; they can influence
the way the Metropolitan Police Service is portrayed. It is important that
we build good relationships with them, even when the circumstances are
difficult. They have a duty to report many of those things that we have to
deal with - crime, demonstrations, accidents, major events and incidents.

This guide is designed to help you take the appropriate action when you have
to deal with members of the media.

1. Members of the media have a duty to report from the scene of many of the
incidents we have to deal with. We should actively help them carry out their
responsibilities provided they do not interfere with ours.
2. Where it is necessary to put cordons in place, it is much better to
provide the media with a good vantage point from which they can operate
rather than to exclude them, otherwise they may try to get around the
cordons and interfere with police operations. Providing an area for members
of the media does not exclude them from operating from other areas to which
the general public have access.
3. Members of the media have a duty to take photographs and film incidents
and we have no legal power or moral responsibility to prevent or restrict
what they record. It is a matter for their editors to control what is
published or broadcast, not the police. Once images are recorded, we have no
power to delete or confiscate them without a court order, even if we think
they contain damaging or useful evidence.
4. If someone who is distressed or bereaved asks for police to intervene to
prevent members of the media filming or photographing them, we may pass on
their request but we have no power to prevent or restrict media activity. If
they are trespassing on private property, the person who owns or controls
the premises may eject them and may ask for your help in preventing a breach
of the peace while they do so. The media have their own rules of conduct and
complaints procedures if members of the public object.
5. To help you identify genuine members of the media, they carry
identification, which they will produce to you on request. An example of the
UK Press Card is shown [on the paper guidelines].
6. Members of the media do not need a permit to photograph or film in public
places.
7. To enter private property while accompanying police, the media must
obtain permission, which must be recorded, from the person who owns or is in
control the premises. We cannot give or deny permission to members of the
media to enter private premises whether the premises are directly involved
in the police operation or not. This is a matter between the person who owns
or is in control the premises and the members of the media.
8. Giving members of the media access to incident scenes is a matter for the
Senior Investigating Officer. The gathering of evidence and forensic
retrieval make access unlikely in the early stages and this should be
explained to members of the media. Requests for access should be passed to
the Senior Investigating Officer who should allow access in appropriate
cases as soon as practicable.
9. Advice and assistance in dealing with members of the media is available
24 hours a day via the Press Bureau at New Scotland Yard.

Just wondered how many members carry a UK press Card, as with the met Police guidelines, and if you dont have a press card, does that me you are treated differently as a photographer than if you have a card working for a paper or television
Britman 14 1.7k England
28 Mar 2008 5:13PM
Well I'm very surprised at the response I got from my local MP, via a letter, yes a real world paper letter. (that's the surprising bit)

Needless to say, he won't be signing it, which I kind of knew, like I said he's a fully paid up member of this dictatorship we live under.
Burgy_Tog 16 634 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2008 5:53PM

Quote:What of the rights of those that donít want to be photographed in public places?


They have none. If you don't want to be photographed avoid public places.
Paul Morgan 19 19.5k 6 England
28 Mar 2008 5:55PM
If think you do, what if you asked them to stop and they refused Smile
Burgy_Tog 16 634 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2008 5:56PM

Quote:Just wondered how many members carry a UK press Card, as with the met Police guidelines, and if you dont have a press card, does that me you are treated differently as a photographer than if you have a card working for a paper or television


I do, and it should mean that we should not be impeded in recording what we consider to be newsworthy events. It also should provide access to press only areas (assuming they have been set up) and it should mean that joe public doesn't get access.

However the police (Met included) have been remiss in the past in not preventing "non-press" access to press only areas, and equipment has subsequently been nicked.
Burgy_Tog 16 634 United Kingdom
28 Mar 2008 5:57PM

Quote:If think you do, what if you asked them to stop and they refused


It doesn't matter, you have no rights to privacy in a public place.

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