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Carabosse Plus
20 43.7k 270 England
6 Mar 2004 6:07PM
I think David was hinting, none to subtly, that I should leave the forum!

I was responding appropriately!

If you are not interested in improvements, and as I have said it is a question in this instance of when and not if, then don't bother with threads like this.

Simplicity itself! Smile

There are many threads on the forum I don't bother even opening because I can tell from the title it is likely I will not be interested.

Likewise I (almost) never visit the Software, PSP or PS sections.
BOB S 21 2.6k
6 Mar 2004 6:16PM

We are not debating "other forums" here only ePhotozine.
I doubt very much if other "magazines (paper or otherwise)" as you put it would see ePhotozine as a method of drumming up business, more a way of taking customers away from them. Why do you think PP has joined forces ?
We are only helping other businesses if we become their customers, and this does not make us customers of ePhotozine !
I repeat my message earlier on do not expect changes to be made as a devine right to you because you contribute to the site.

Carabosse Plus
20 43.7k 270 England
6 Mar 2004 6:26PM
And you Bob have no divine (or even "devine") right to try and censor suggestions from others - especially where they have already been accepted in principle by the Editor - just because they don't appeal to you!
kit-monster 19 3.7k 2 Singapore
6 Mar 2004 7:46PM

~~~~~~~~~ THE END ~~~~~~~~~

Bernie 19 2.2k
6 Mar 2004 7:58PM
Last word..Wink
zippie 19 1.3k England
6 Mar 2004 9:36PM
So are we getting PM's then ???
agoreira 19 6.0k Wales
6 Mar 2004 9:39PM
Andy, its a definite maybe! I think! Wink
BOB S 21 2.6k
6 Mar 2004 9:48PM

I have not tried to censor any suggestions from anybody - just pointed out a few truths.
I quite like the idea of PM's,(and have never suggested otherwise, to my knowledge) in fact I am permanently logged in to MSN messenger as many of my friends and colleagues around the world like to communicate this way - I use it for videoconferenceing with them.
I just dont think I have the right to demand that somebody else should provide it here.

Just Jas Plus
21 26.4k 1 England
6 Mar 2004 10:54PM
The petty infighting that has gone on in this thread (and which has diverted from the main topic) is a good argument for having such exchanges on a PM.

Just Jas
Little Jo 21 2.3k United Kingdom
7 Mar 2004 8:58AM
When we had our email addresses in our profile, the facility was abused by a small minority who sent some members abusive emails. Who's to say private messaging would not be similarly abused?

I used a visit a site that used other software, it was unreliable, slow to load and upleasant to use. I prefer EPZ just as it is. It's simple, it's easy on the eye and it works.

With such a diverse membership as we have here at EPZ, you can't please all of the people all of the time and you will get heated debates, misunderstandings and personality clashes. Providing it doesn't get too personal or get out of hand, surely it's all part of life's rich tapestry?

It would get rather boring if we all agreed all of the time.

Carabosse Plus
20 43.7k 270 England
7 Mar 2004 2:46PM
Private Messaging is fully under the control of the site managers - that's the difference between PM and email! Any abuse can be stamped on very quickly. On other sites, I have used, with PM I can honestly say I have never once received a hostile PM.

The other good thing about PM - again as compared with email - is that there can be no spamming problems, no attachments and no possibility of viruses being passed around.

I fully agree with the last 2 paras of Little Jo's posting. Smile
stompie 19 14
8 Mar 2004 9:59AM
Eeeek, I've really stirred up a hornet's nest, sorry folks! Smile
I've used Private Messaging on other sites and I've never seen it abused.
In this case I wanted to pass on details of a particular location to another member without making it public, or publishing my email address.
I really don't think people will be whispering in corners or arguing using a PM facility.

By the way I love this site, and have become completely addicted, and learnt a huge amount in the months I've been here.
keith selmes 19 7.4k 1 United Kingdom
8 Mar 2004 10:53AM
'in this case I wanted to pass on details of a particular location to another member without making it public, or publishing my email address.'

Thats it, In a nutshell.
kit-monster 19 3.7k 2 Singapore
8 Mar 2004 11:07AM
Thanks for pulling this back to where it started. Initially, I really didn't like the idea. What bothered me was the potential for abuse. This might be a reflection of some of the on-line arguments I've been sucked into recently. Having re-read the whole thread, I now realise that this could be a useful tool. So what I'd like to see is:

1) No change to the forum

2) All contact comes from ephotozine and doesn't include anyones email or contact details
Carabosse Plus
20 43.7k 270 England
8 Mar 2004 11:14AM
I do not see how (1) and (2) of Kit-monster's requirements are compatible?

PM would be a change to the forum but would not change anything else.

I agree about not publishing email addresses on ePz. On other forums of which I am a member they are published quite freely (i.e. a standard feature of members's profiles) but there does seem to be an abuse problem on ePz which I have not come across elsewhere, and which surprises me.

But perhaps I shouldn't be too surprised as members profiles are available to the whole of the WWW. That's a big no-no almost everywhere else. Profiles are generally available only to logged-in members.

Perhaps that's something The Team might look at?

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