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Photographing people who don't want to be photographed!

lemmy Plus
10 2.7k United Kingdom
7 Mar 2012 7:02PM

Quote:You haven't seen 73% of the Gallery Portraits on ePz!

Funny how us photographers always want to photograph pretty or glamorous people and painters like Bacon and Picasso don't give a damn for 'pretty', they want 'interesting'. Bacon's idea of a nude is very different from the sexy soft porn images of most photographers.

Not true of the greatest photographers, I suppose, like Bill Brandt who have a serious intent about their nudes.

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Bloggs Plus
6 313 England
7 Mar 2012 7:43PM
One word Ade ......"CHARM" .....simple, turn it on and they just relax Wink ....now i must go and practice what i preach ......oh and under no circumstances do you ask them to smile !!!! tell them to be miserable ....they will smile Wink get it ?
ade_mcfade Plus
13 15.2k 216 England
7 Mar 2012 8:58PM
Its a bit like a speed-dating approach to portraiture really... you've got 2 minutes to capture someone and make them look ace Wink

Think I did just about everything positive that people have mentioned so far... didn't go in for the shock tactics... or chin anyone... in fact, there were some proper giant rugby players there!

Quite an enjoyable sort job really - no one quite the same.

shooting tethered kinda helps - you can show them the shot instantly on a screen, get the "I look awful" comments out of the way then show them how to "really stand", get great shots, pack them on their way and they love it Wink

do need to learn some suitably filthy jokes though
Sooty_1 Plus
7 1.5k 221 United Kingdom
7 Mar 2012 9:37PM

Quote:If you read some of the comments here, many people seem to think the way to deal with hostility is more hostility. It's not. The reason people are like that is that they are nervous. You overcome that by relaxing them. Anyone can take a picture. Not everyone can relax nervous people.

I don't think the comments were meant seriously......................TongueWink
ade_mcfade Plus
13 15.2k 216 England
7 Mar 2012 10:10PM

Quote:I don't think the comments were meant seriously.

....and neither was the thread in general Wink

Just a bit of fun
Tooth Plus
12 5.8k 227 Ireland
7 Mar 2012 11:13PM

Quote:I hate having my picture taken

"well that's hardly surprising is it, love?" Wink
JackAllTog Plus
8 4.9k 58 United Kingdom
8 Mar 2012 9:28AM
Maybe a tear sheet of actors in business dress and some flattery - Ah you look like and Al Pacino kind of Guy lets go for that look with you sir. Great look, now lets try you as a Tom Hanks with this type of pose.
This approach may also allow marketing to group "styles" of people when they use the shots?

I could give you my jokes list too, but only so you'd avoid using them as they never work Wink
alansnap Plus
14 577 26 United Kingdom
8 Mar 2012 9:28AM
Hi Ade, I completely agree with Lemmy. I might ask them why they feel that way and talk to their nervousness. Then of course as you seem to have done you get them in a sympathetic pose and they realise that this process is not unpleasant and may even be fun. You're doing the right thing showing them the results and letting them feel that they have some sort of influence over the final result.

Why the consultants, I have no idea - after all you are a consultant with the specialist skill of taking photos.

ade_mcfade Plus
13 15.2k 216 England
8 Mar 2012 9:59AM
Did they call them selves agents at one stage, now they've metamorphosised into consultants

When you show them the photo and they do the "god that's awful" thing, you can throw it back and say "what do you want to change" Wink Quick move of the lights can usually solve most worries... well except for the "newly chubby" ones. I think people who've been over-weight for ages are kinda used to it, it's those who've recently put on the pounds who are worst...
SlowSong Plus
9 7.2k 30 England
8 Mar 2012 10:43AM

Quote:I hate having my picture taken
"well that's hardly surprising is it, love?" Wink

Gawd! I'd never come to you. GrinGrinGrin

Quote:, I completely agree with Lemmy. I might ask them why they feel that way and talk to their nervousness.
Oh no!! Counselling! It'd never work with me. I'd walk out and shrivel up. Grin
Carabosse Plus
14 41.0k 269 England
8 Mar 2012 10:57AM
Drop the name of their MD early into the conversation! devilish-light.jpg

You'll probably get more co-operation. Wink
8 Mar 2012 1:15PM
LMAO, this is quite a funny thread!

A good point raised though Ade, I would remind them I'm only taking part of their soul with my iconographmachine!Grin

I think humour has to be the way forward!
ade_mcfade Plus
13 15.2k 216 England
8 Mar 2012 4:42PM
Humour all the way...

Unlike most clients, these guys didn't want to be photographed, so it's kinda making it as light hearted as you can that counts...

There was this HUGE rugby player, talking 60 inch chest (mine's 50 an he was LOADS bigger), and didn't take long to get him laughing when I told him to stand side on cause i didn't have a lens wide enough to get him straight on!

After that, 10 very quick fire clicks, 5 shots he really liked - just picked one... NEXT!
18 Feb 2014 2:44AM
I have told them this: keep your eyes closed when you review them.
24 Mar 2014 9:56PM
We're in a people business, so if we're not able to help people feel happy and comfortable then we're doing something wrong. Talk to them, charm them, take their mind off the fact that you're about to 'click' so it almost 'click' doesn't feel like they're being 'click' photographed. The fact that I look like Harry Hill and have an awesome repertoire of gurns I can use doesn't hurt either. Almost every client I speak with says 'I hate being photographed' but they always love the results. It's our job to help them look better than they've ever looked before using, posing, composition and lighting.

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