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Scotland 20 - England 17 - Well done Scotland!


MacMaghnais Avatar
MacMaghnais 13 10 Scotland
5 Feb 2022 8:14PM
It has made my day to see Scotland beating England in the rugby today. I love the 6 nations and was lucky enough to get a press pass to a few games at Murrayfield some years ago.
Cephus Avatar
Cephus 18 2.7k England
5 Feb 2022 8:17PM
I enjoyed Wales being beaten by Ireland.Smile
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Dave_Canon 17 2.2k United Kingdom
5 Feb 2022 10:38PM
Ireland was the best of the four teams so far but we see France tomorrow.

I could not really understand why an England player leaping to catch a ball but missing can sensibly give a penalty try to the other side. This was exacerbated by the repeated Scotland infringements in the late scrum but no penalty to England. There are a lot of things about Rugby that puzzle me. It has always seemed to me that if a player crosses the line in control of the ball that should be enough for a try. This would avoid the silly time wasting discussions on whether it was toughed down in precisely the right way i.e. adopt a similar approach to American Football.Wink

Dave
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Jestertheclown 14 8.8k 255 England
5 Feb 2022 10:44PM

Quote:I could not really understand why an England player leaping to catch a ball but missing can sensibly give a penalty try to the other side.

He was deemed to be knocking the ball downwards and forwards rather than trying to catch it.
Hard to deny, looking at all the replays.

Quote:
There are a lot of things about Rugby that puzzle me.


Same here.
I've followed it, at national level, for years and never fully understood how it's played and nowadays the rules seem to have become incomprehensible.
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saltireblue Plus
13 14.5k 88 Norway
6 Feb 2022 12:08PM
Fortunately rugby lacks the pathetic drama queens of professional football, the dissent constantly shown towards the officials and the blatant attempts at cheating and fooling the referee.
So-called professional footballers could learn a hell of a lot from the true professionals in the world of rugby
sjr Avatar
sjr Plus
6 863 England
6 Feb 2022 9:49PM
Called all the results was a little off on the scores so my bet failed (I know gambling's a mugs game.)

Love the six nations and I may get run out of the country for saying this. I don't actually care who wins (as long as its not France)
We have for the first time ever because of the virus thing (maybe the only good thing in two years) managed to get tickets to a game.
Roll on the 19th Wales/Italy in Cardiff.
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Dave_Canon 17 2.2k United Kingdom
12 Feb 2022 5:23PM
Perhaps my point above is clearer. Last week an England player jumped high to grab the ball but knocked it forward and out. A penalty try was given to Scotland; I still think that this is crazy. Had the play continued with a Scotland scrum for the Knock on or a Scotland Line out, Scotland may well have earned a try but we will never know. Today a Scottish player similarly tried to reach for a ball and this was also ruled as a penalty though not a penalty try in this case. As it happens the game initially proceeded and it almost led to a Wales try. The penalty was then taken by Wales which led to a drop goal and wales winning the match by that margin. How do Scotland now feel about the application of penalties in this way.

Dave
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MacMaghnais 13 10 Scotland
13 Feb 2022 6:13PM
Just fine Dave. As long as the rule is fairly applied. In the case of the England player he was clearly trying to cheat and the penalty try and yellow card were deserved. Yesterday the same was probably true but Scotland had cover to prevent a try so just a penalty was given.
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Cephus 18 2.7k England
13 Feb 2022 6:19PM

Quote:Just fine Dave. As long as the rule is fairly applied. In the case of the England player he was clearly trying to cheat and the penalty try and yellow card were deserved. Yesterday the same was probably true but Scotland had cover to prevent a try so just a penalty was given.
Quite right, the England player prevented the Scotland player of possibly scoring a try.
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Dave_Canon 17 2.2k United Kingdom
13 Feb 2022 7:22PM
Yes I am not saying the rules were not applied but I do not think the rules are correct for open rugby. If the blue stand-off kicks forward to the corner and the blue winger catches the ball and runs over for a try fine. If the white opposition winger/full back leaps to catch the ball and succeeds, it is clearly not a try. What bother me is that if the blue winger fumbles the ball it could be a line out or scrum against him at the most whereas if the white player misses the catch, it can be a penalty try (and the player sent off); crazy!. That suggests that there is no point in defending which is wrong.

I still think that a try should be awarded for crossing the try line in control of the ball without all this fuss about whether it is touched down precisely correctly or held up.

France look favourites for the 6 nations now the first round is complete.

Dave

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