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Should we expect more from bird photographers?


brian1208 Plus
12 10.7k 12 United Kingdom
11 Jan 2013 4:41PM

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I know what you mean Brian. I entered one of my drone fly photos in the local club competition and the judge made the point that the usual thing was to get large DOF to show the whole bug, but this was shot at f5.6 with very noarrow DOF which lifted it from a 'record shot' to something more abstract and even 'art' (oo-er I thought).
I think it is strange that many animal shots are labelled as 'record shots' (and in the main I agree) but I have almost never heard that applied to even the most mundane of landscapes.



Yes, I put up an image on Wednesday called "Spinning her Web" which was shot at around f4 focused precisely on the spinnaret of a Garden Orb Spider with the rest being visible but deliberately OOF. He scored it at 11/20 because it wasn't all in focus and sharp and afterwards said that he hadn't picked up on the intent and detail of the shot as he hated spiders! (and he was confronted by a 6ft x 4ft projected close-up of one Tongue )

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Paul Morgan Plus
14 17.1k 6 England
11 Jan 2013 4:42PM

Quote:Why is it that birds get more awards than other animals....surley the difficulty in taking the photograph and the skills involved in taking a moving image are the same


I`m not big on birds but I still appreciate good shots, you have got to be special sort of person to do well with birds, and I`m not one of them, no patience.

My idea of bird photography is slinging a handful of sausages(fresh and cooked) on the roof of my extension, the kites seem to love them Smile
brian1208 Plus
12 10.7k 12 United Kingdom
11 Jan 2013 4:59PM

Quote:My idea of bird photography is slinging a handful of sausages(fresh and cooked) on the roof of my extension, the kites seem to love them


You lucky devil, we haven't got them down here yet Smile
lawbert 8 1.8k 15 England
11 Jan 2013 5:17PM

Quote:My idea of bird photography is slinging a handful of sausages(fresh and cooked) on the roof of my extension, the kites seem to love them


Sounds like heaven Paul!!

Do they prefer a Cumberland or Lincolnshire?!!
StrayCat Plus
11 16.5k 2 Canada
11 Jan 2013 5:41PM
Go to birdsasart.com for everything you ever wanted to know about bird photography...and what makes a good bird photograph.Wink
lawbert 8 1.8k 15 England
11 Jan 2013 5:49PM

Quote:Go to birdsasart.com for everything you ever wanted to know about bird photography...and what makes a good bird photograph.Wink


Didnt we go through this a while ago??!!TongueWink
Paul Morgan Plus
14 17.1k 6 England
11 Jan 2013 6:17PM

Quote:Do they prefer a Cumberland or Lincolnshire?!!


I don`t think there bothered Smile


Quote:You lucky devil, we haven't got them down here yet


We have them in the hundreds.

I`m on the Bucks/Berks/Oxfordshire border, its very much like this in my garden Smile









GazzaG2003 12 265 England
11 Jan 2013 7:49PM
love the vids, terrific stuff Smile
DOGSBODY 6 1.4k 30 England
11 Jan 2013 8:01PM
I feel that all types of photography have improved immensely in the last 10 years and much of what once had the "wow" factor has now become almost ordinary.
When I look through the galleries nowadays I find less and less that really inspires me. That is not to say that there is a lack of skill being displayed, far from it.
Things will move on and it will be interesting to see what will be regarded as avant garde in about 5 years time. Perhaps movie will be the answer for certain types of subject, such as natural history.
keithh Plus
11 24.0k 33 Wallis And Futuna
11 Jan 2013 8:46PM

Quote:I feel that all types of photography have improved immensely in the last 10 years


The award gallery can often argue the case against that statement.

(Yeah I know- shoot me)
tomcat Plus
9 6.4k 15 United Kingdom
11 Jan 2013 9:12PM

Quote:I did try bird photography once, but in my naivety assumed you just went out with your canon 350d and 300mm kit lens and waited for the birds to appear. I knew nothing of Canon L lenses, Hides, building perches, constructing false backgounds, baiting, electronic bird calls etc. I got a couple of good shots of a robin taking off, but the rest of the results were just as you would expect!



...and there lies your answer to your original post

I could easily knock the 'scape toggers on here, but I don't! Why?
Because I can't damn well do itSad

There has also been the odd "smug" comment on here (not by the OP),, but when I have checked out the poster's PF, they too are lacking in the prowess, to achieve the "bird on a stick" as it has been called
brian1208 Plus
12 10.7k 12 United Kingdom
11 Jan 2013 9:23PM

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(Yeah I know- shoot me)




only if you stand on a stick Keith Wink
tomcat Plus
9 6.4k 15 United Kingdom
11 Jan 2013 9:39PM
What I neglected to state in my post, was the fact that all of the bird/wildlife toggers on this site( that I know who I have met), have a genuine interest in the conservation of wildlfe in this country and beyond


Quote:From my past limited experience in bird photography, capturing the subject exactly where you want it, is a challenge.


Just spotted this quote

Never a truer wordGrin
keithh Plus
11 24.0k 33 Wallis And Futuna
11 Jan 2013 9:42PM
To be fair most Lemontographers know their Orange from their Mango too.
ade_mcfade Plus
11 15.2k 216 England
11 Jan 2013 10:48PM

Quote:Should we expect more from bird photographers?


aye - to photograph something else once in a while Wink


ho ho ho

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